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  1. This newsgroup is sci.med, so if you have a religious explanation, you might want to look for
    another newsgroup. It's more complicated that this, but as a generalization, eating a lot of PUFAs,
    and some MUFAs too (in fact, even low quality olive oil appears to be pretty bad stuff, as is erucic
    acid, found in canola/rapeseed) is a very bad idea. As you get older, you lose the anitoxidant
    protection you had when you are younger. The body often compensates by raising cholesterol (which
    has anitoxidant properties) and lipofuscin, as example. The "typical Western diet" is way too high
    in iron, but given the choice between too much PUFAs and too much iron, I'll take the iron, and eat
    sorghum molasses and drink coffee to get rid of it. If you are stuck with a diet high in PUFAs, for
    whatever reason, you can try eating other foods very high in anitoxidants, dark chocolate, or
    example, but it seems like a really bad idea when you look at the evidence. Avoid iron, I agree, but
    also avoid unsaturated fatty acids (in general, though a few olives and a little sesame tahini
    should be okay, again, that's what the experiments/studies suggest).

    doe posted (among other things):

    ">That's not a scientific way to do things.

    And you are saying that the 'scientific way' is the ONLY .. way .. ?"

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