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Re: A new(ish) Cycle Lane

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  1. "Bob Downie" <BobMail@downie-geo#n0spam#.co.uk> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dear All,

    I have some serious safety concerns regarding the newly implemented
    cycle lanes on Kilmarnock Road in Glasgow, which is on a route I
    frequently use.

    [snip]

    I would advise, as well as sending your letter, getting in touch with
    your local "cycling activism" group. I assume Glasgow has one.

    If it does have one, the bureaucrats will probably have decided that
    it is the official voice of every Glasgow cyclist, including you, and
    therefore, if you disagree with the "experts on cycling" you should
    be ignored.

    By the nature of things those most active in the group will probably
    those wanting change. They will want change because they are those
    who have most difficulty in riding on the roads as they are.

    Those who have trouble riding on the roads likely have trouble
    because they are doing things wrongly. When they demand facilities
    they will want facilities in accord with their riding style - for
    example riding very close to the kerb, or on the pavement, or very
    close to a car door. In effect using the facilities will make their
    bad riding style compulsory.

    Officialdom my well lean to one side or the other. Since officialdom
    is mostly made up of non cyclists, they may favour a group of
    cyclists that advocates getting cyclists out of the way of motorists.

    There will be people who are not really interested in cycling at all.
    There will be those who want to encourage cycling with the slogan,
    "Cycling is difficult and dangerous, but it is your duty to do it
    anyway, to save the planet"

    Go along to a few meetings, and find out who's who. If you don't go,
    you will be letting the other side win by default. If you speak,
    always attack policies, never people.

    In addition to dealing with people, you will need to know what
    Scotland's Design Standards say. They are on the web somewhere, I
    think.. If the facility does not meet design standards, you have
    ammunition to help you. If the facility does meet design standards,
    but is still bad, you have a bigger problem. You probably will need
    to get the standards changed. Get advice from CTC Scotland.

    Don't expect victories to be quick. Don't expect victories to be
    complete. But if you do nothing, you have already lost

    Jeremy Parker
    Barnet Borough Coordinator
    London Cycling Campaign.

  2. Jeremy Parker said:

    "Bob Downie" <BobMail@downie-geo#n0spam#.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dear All,

    I have some serious safety concerns regarding the newly implemented
    cycle lanes on Kilmarnock Road in Glasgow, which is on a route I
    frequently use.

    [snip]

    I would advise, as well as sending your letter, getting in touch with
    your local "cycling activism" group. I assume Glasgow has one.

    If it does have one, the bureaucrats will probably have decided that
    it is the official voice of every Glasgow cyclist, including you, and
    therefore, if you disagree with the "experts on cycling" you should
    be ignored.

    By the nature of things those most active in the group will probably
    those wanting change. They will want change because they are those
    who have most difficulty in riding on the roads as they are.

    Those who have trouble riding on the roads likely have trouble
    because they are doing things wrongly. When they demand facilities
    they will want facilities in accord with their riding style - for
    example riding very close to the kerb, or on the pavement, or very
    close to a car door. In effect using the facilities will make their
    bad riding style compulsory.

    You're just about right. See http://www.gobike.org/ Their literature
    rarely if ever mentions the word "road".

    --
    Brian G

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