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Re: A different world, 5 blocks away

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  1. Andy Gee asked:

    Anyone else have any neighborhoods where the biking goes from
    wonderful to miserable by crossing a street?
    --------------------------------------------------

    You bet. In my hometown of Eugene, Oregon, we have one of the best
    systems of onstreet bike lanes and offroad paths in the country. There
    is also a strong bicycling culture and the attitude of motorists is
    generally good towards it.

    However, just to the East, across Interstate 5, all this is
    reversed. In this other little city, whose name I don't use in polite
    company, the only bikepath that existed for years, was built and
    maintained by the Eugene water & electric agency, along a powerline of
    theirs. They've built a couple of their own short bikepaths in recent
    years, mainly for the purpose of qualifying for federal road funding.
    There's just a few bicycle commuters here, but they run a gauntlet
    through a crush of assorted and inconsiderate rednecks on the single
    connecting street through the town. There's other busy streets that are
    narrow and without shoulders, that are the only routes a cyclist can use
    to go many places. I've been a member of a bicycle coalition in Eugene,
    that acts as an advisory group to that city. I've suggested that we
    extend the coalition to include this other town, to help improve things
    there, but no one in either place wants anything to do with this idea.

    There's been a couple of people in the public works dept. of this
    other town who have tentatively
    secured some funding for a couple of major bikepath connectors, so there
    is a glimmer of hope.
    But, they are without much support in these projects from the public and
    are riding on a steep incline, to get anything done. In the last twenty
    years, funding was secured and planning completed here, for two big
    bikepath projects. One was for a 3-mile path along a millstream,
    connecting two parks. The other was for a 35-mile rails-to-trails path
    to another town. In both cases, property owners along parts of the
    routes exerted their influence on politicians and the bikepaths were
    permanently cancelled. These residents didn't want the kind of
    riff-raff who ride bicycles being able to pass by the rear of their
    properties. Never mind the kind of people who were driving motor
    vehicles in large numbers by their frontsides.

    As the thread implies, a huge cultural difference
    can exist on opposite sides of a narrow dividing zone.

    Steve McDonald

  2. Steve McDonald said:


    In my hometown of Eugene, Oregon, we have one of the best
    systems of onstreet bike lanes and offroad paths in the country. There
    is also a strong bicycling culture and the attitude of motorists is
    generally good towards it.

    However, just to the East, across Interstate 5, all this is
    reversed. In this other little city, whose name I don't use in polite
    company, the only bikepath that existed for years, was built and
    maintained by the Eugene water & electric agency, along a powerline of
    theirs. They've built a couple of their own short bikepaths in recent
    years, mainly for the purpose of qualifying for federal road funding.
    There's just a few bicycle commuters here, but they run a gauntlet
    through a crush of assorted and inconsiderate rednecks on the single
    connecting street through the town. There's other busy streets that are
    narrow and without shoulders, that are the only routes a cyclist can use
    to go many places.

    Seriously: Is there a reason not to improve those streets, instead of
    add bike paths?

    Separate bike paths sometimes do run into problems like opposition from
    landowners, ROW acquisition costs, etc. But the streets almost always
    have enough ROW width, and landowners don't normally object to the
    streets being there. It's usually cheaper to fix a street, and when
    it's done (by simply widening outside lanes, plus fixing any "hot spot"
    special problems) it's usually better for motorists as well as
    cyclists. That can make it an easier sell.

    Why the focus on paths?

    - Frank Krygowski

  3. Steve McDonald said:


    In my hometown of Eugene, Oregon, we have one of the best
    systems of onstreet bike lanes and offroad paths in the country. There
    is also a strong bicycling culture and the attitude of motorists is
    generally good towards it.

    However, just to the East, across Interstate 5, all this is
    reversed. In this other little city, whose name I don't use in polite
    company, the only bikepath that existed for years, was built and
    maintained by the Eugene water & electric agency, along a powerline of
    theirs. They've built a couple of their own short bikepaths in recent
    years, mainly for the purpose of qualifying for federal road funding.
    There's just a few bicycle commuters here, but they run a gauntlet
    through a crush of assorted and inconsiderate rednecks on the single
    connecting street through the town. There's other busy streets that are
    narrow and without shoulders, that are the only routes a cyclist can use
    to go many places.

    Seriously: Is there a reason not to improve those streets, instead of
    add bike paths?

    Separate bike paths sometimes do run into problems like opposition from
    landowners, ROW acquisition costs, etc. But the streets almost always
    have enough ROW width, and landowners don't normally object to the
    streets being there. It's usually cheaper to fix a street, and when
    it's done (by simply widening outside lanes, plus fixing any "hot spot"
    special problems) it's usually better for motorists as well as
    cyclists. That can make it an easier sell.

    Why the focus on paths?

    - Frank Krygowski

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