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Re: 3 climbers die

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  1. Following up to Stewart Robert Hinsley

    Quoted message said:

    Seville, Saragossa, Coruna, Cordova -

    I think Saragossa has/is dying out and i've never seen Cordova,
    although I may have just thought it a typo!. (Eyewitness Spain
    doesnt use them but does use Seville).

    Theres also Catalonia, Andalusia and Castile, dont know why we
    dont just change to the correct spelling now we are more familar
    with Spanish. Especially as Castilla (cahst-e-ya) is very
    different from Castile (cahst-eel) to those familiar with the
    spanish alphabet.

    Quoted message said:

    would Coruna/La Coruna be
    Galician/Castilian rather than English/Spanish?

    Thats "La Coruña" and "A Coruña", english seems to often be
    "Corunna".

    Quoted message said:

    In the case of French towns, counterexamples including Dunkirk, Paris
    (even if the spelling is the same), Lyons and Marseilles.

    not as dramatic as Florence for Firenze though, are they?

    Quoted message said:

    (It's tempting
    to blame the absence of English names for French towns on the Norman
    conquest.) I count 10 Italian towns with English names, so the
    difference may not be so much.

    wasnt french the international language when these changes were
    going on? I think the Italian "anglicisations" are the same in
    french?
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

  2. "The Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Following up to Stewart Robert Hinsley

    Quoted message said:

    Seville, Saragossa, Coruna, Cordova -

    I think Saragossa has/is dying out and i've never seen Cordova,
    although I may have just thought it a typo!. (Eyewitness Spain
    doesnt use them but does use Seville).

    Theres also Catalonia, Andalusia and Castile, dont know why we
    dont just change to the correct spelling now we are more familar
    with Spanish. Especially as Castilla (cahst-e-ya) is very
    different from Castile (cahst-eel) to those familiar with the
    spanish alphabet.

    Quoted message said:

    would Coruna/La Coruna be
    Galician/Castilian rather than English/Spanish?

    Thats "La Coruña" and "A Coruña", english seems to often be
    "Corunna".

    Quoted message said:

    In the case of French towns, counterexamples including Dunkirk, Paris
    (even if the spelling is the same), Lyons and Marseilles.

    not as dramatic as Florence for Firenze though, are they?

    Quoted message said:

    (It's tempting
    to blame the absence of English names for French towns on the Norman
    conquest.) I count 10 Italian towns with English names, so the
    difference may not be so much.

    wasnt french the international language when these changes were
    going on? I think the Italian "anglicisations" are the same in
    french?

    But arent all these...as with the case of anglicising of Gaelic and Welsh
    names just a misinterpretation of the original speech or writing. So for an
    Englishperson not used to a double ll being pronounced more like a j in
    spanish, they might read Castilla as KahSteela. It also happens with
    English towns when you like at the number that have converted the roman caer
    or caester into chester as in Manchester or Worcester.

  3. Following up to Rob Devereux

    Quoted message said:

    But arent all these...as with the case of anglicising of Gaelic and Welsh
    names just a misinterpretation of the original speech or writing. So for an
    Englishperson not used to a double ll being pronounced more like a j in
    spanish, they might read Castilla as KahSteela. It also happens with
    English towns when you like at the number that have converted the roman caer
    or caester into chester as in Manchester or Worcester.

    I imagine that's the large part of it.
    --
    Mike Reid
    Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

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