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Ralph Moss talks sense

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  1. From a recent Moss report on PolyMVA, an anti-cancer "supplement".

    "I am familiar with all the obstacles that exist for
    publishing innovative medical work. Indeed, a dozen
    years ago it was very difficult to get a serious
    hearing anywhere for innovative cancer treatments. But
    today that situation has dramatically changed. The US
    government now spends almost $100 million per year
    researching alternative medicine. Both the National
    Cancer Institute and the National Institutes of Health
    have offices whose charge is specifically to examine
    such treatments. There are half a dozen peer-reviewed
    journals that are eager to publish findings on
    non-conventional approaches.

    Publication in peer-reviewed journals is the accepted
    meeting ground of science: most genuine scientists try
    extremely hard to put their research in front of their
    peers. The conspicuous absence of peer-reviewed
    research on PolyMVA is therefore inexplicable. If there
    are really 300 physicians currently using PolyMVA
    routinely in cancer treatment, as some of the drug's
    proponents suggest, why has none of them published data
    on the clinical benefits of the treatment? How could a
    board-certified physician conclude that the "war on
    cancer" has been successfully concluded through PolyMVA
    and yet not explain the basis of that earthshaking
    conclusion in a reputable medical journal?

    Even though anecdotal evidence cannot take the place of
    thorough clinical trials, such evidence is not entirely
    without value as a tentative indicator of merit. It
    might, for example, be worthwhile for PolyMVA
    proponents to carefully sift through the many anecdotes
    to put together a serious presentation to the Cancer
    Advisory Panel on Complementary and Alternative
    Medicine (CAP-CAM) of the National Institutes of
    Health. That panel was set up, with great effort,
    precisely to review claims of benefit from alternative
    treatments. If there were still sufficient interest
    after the presentation, this could lay the groundwork
    for a proper clinical trial. Without even the most
    basic scientific groundwork, however, the evidence for
    PolyMVA's effectiveness remains flimsy at best. "

    Peter Moran

  2. "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    From a recent Moss report on PolyMVA, an anti-cancer "supplement".

    "I am familiar with all the obstacles that exist for
    publishing innovative medical work. Indeed, a dozen
    years ago it was very difficult to get a serious
    hearing anywhere for innovative cancer treatments. But
    today that situation has dramatically changed. The US
    government now spends almost $100 million per year
    researching alternative medicine. Both the National
    Cancer Institute and the National Institutes of Health
    have offices whose charge is specifically to examine
    such treatments. There are half a dozen peer-reviewed
    journals that are eager to publish findings on
    non-conventional approaches.

    Publication in peer-reviewed journals is the accepted
    meeting ground of science: most genuine scientists try
    extremely hard to put their research in front of their
    peers. The conspicuous absence of peer-reviewed
    research on PolyMVA is therefore inexplicable. If there
    are really 300 physicians currently using PolyMVA
    routinely in cancer treatment, as some of the drug's
    proponents suggest, why has none of them published data
    on the clinical benefits of the treatment? How could a
    board-certified physician conclude that the "war on
    cancer" has been successfully concluded through PolyMVA
    and yet not explain the basis of that earthshaking
    conclusion in a reputable medical journal?

    Even though anecdotal evidence cannot take the place of
    thorough clinical trials, such evidence is not entirely
    without value as a tentative indicator of merit. It
    might, for example, be worthwhile for PolyMVA
    proponents to carefully sift through the many anecdotes
    to put together a serious presentation to the Cancer
    Advisory Panel on Complementary and Alternative
    Medicine (CAP-CAM) of the National Institutes of
    Health. That panel was set up, with great effort,
    precisely to review claims of benefit from alternative
    treatments. If there were still sufficient interest
    after the presentation, this could lay the groundwork
    for a proper clinical trial. Without even the most
    basic scientific groundwork, however, the evidence for
    PolyMVA's effectiveness remains flimsy at best. "

    Moss' perspective can be readily applied to many of the so-called miracles
    of alternative medicine. If people are realy being cured at such fantastic
    rates, where are the case reports?

    They are meely smoke and mirrors.

  3. Quoted message said:

    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 11/4/2003 12:45 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Ralph Moss talks sense

    Are you just now learning that??

    He has always talked sense.

    http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/reports.shtml

    Jan

    Quoted message said:

    From a recent Moss report on PolyMVA, an anti-cancer "supplement".

    "I am familiar with all the obstacles that exist for
    publishing innovative medical work. Indeed, a dozen
    years ago it was very difficult to get a serious
    hearing anywhere for innovative cancer treatments. But
    today that situation has dramatically changed. The US
    government now spends almost $100 million per year
    researching alternative medicine. Both the National
    Cancer Institute and the National Institutes of Health
    have offices whose charge is specifically to examine
    such treatments. There are half a dozen peer-reviewed
    journals that are eager to publish findings on
    non-conventional approaches.

    Publication in peer-reviewed journals is the accepted
    meeting ground of science: most genuine scientists try
    extremely hard to put their research in front of their
    peers. The conspicuous absence of peer-reviewed
    research on PolyMVA is therefore inexplicable. If there
    are really 300 physicians currently using PolyMVA
    routinely in cancer treatment, as some of the drug's
    proponents suggest, why has none of them published data
    on the clinical benefits of the treatment? How could a
    board-certified physician conclude that the "war on
    cancer" has been successfully concluded through PolyMVA
    and yet not explain the basis of that earthshaking
    conclusion in a reputable medical journal?

    Even though anecdotal evidence cannot take the place of
    thorough clinical trials, such evidence is not entirely
    without value as a tentative indicator of merit. It
    might, for example, be worthwhile for PolyMVA
    proponents to carefully sift through the many anecdotes
    to put together a serious presentation to the Cancer
    Advisory Panel on Complementary and Alternative
    Medicine (CAP-CAM) of the National Institutes of
    Health. That panel was set up, with great effort,
    precisely to review claims of benefit from alternative
    treatments. If there were still sufficient interest
    after the presentation, this could lay the groundwork
    for a proper clinical trial. Without even the most
    basic scientific groundwork, however, the evidence for
    PolyMVA's effectiveness remains flimsy at best. "

    Peter Moran

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