Raised "tables" on side roads

"DaveR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

I'm looking for some help from some
of you wise citizens out there.

My local authority has started to install
features at the points where an urban side
road joins a main road. These features are
bumps that briefly bring the road up to the level
of the pavement and are typically paved
with red brick. (i.e. as if the pavement continued
uninterrupted across the side road but turned red)
These are fine except that they have a concrete
kerb running along then of ~2-4cm high. A cyclist turning
left into one of these is streets is likely to hit this kerb at
a shallow angle and stands a pretty good chance
of having their front wheel skid out from under them,
particularly in the wet. (No I haven't done it yet!)

So my question is: does anyone know where I can
get a copy of road planning guidelines or whatever
that say that although the raised tables are fine,
having such kerbs is NOT A GOOD IDEA? I feel the LA
are more likely to listen if I advise them quoting an
"official document" rather than just my experience
(or inviting some of them to try cycling over them
themselves!)

Dave

Here it is, under "vertical deflections"

hth

John

"DaveR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi All,

I'm looking for some help from some
of you wise citizens out there.

My local authority has started to install
features at the points where an urban side
road joins a main road. These features are
bumps that briefly bring the road up to the level
of the pavement and are typically paved
with red brick. (i.e. as if the pavement continued
uninterrupted across the side road but turned red)
These are fine except that they have a concrete
kerb running along then of ~2-4cm high. A cyclist turning
left into one of these is streets is likely to hit this kerb at
a shallow angle and stands a pretty good chance
of having their front wheel skid out from under them,
particularly in the wet. (No I haven't done it yet!)

So my question is: does anyone know where I can
get a copy of road planning guidelines or whatever
that say that although the raised tables are fine,
having such kerbs is NOT A GOOD IDEA? I feel the LA
are more likely to listen if I advise them quoting an
"official document" rather than just my experience
(or inviting some of them to try cycling over them
themselves!)

Dave

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_504
775-01.hcsp

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"DaveR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi All,

I'm looking for some help from some
of you wise citizens out there.

My local authority has started to install
features at the points where an urban side
road joins a main road. These features are
bumps that briefly bring the road up to the level
of the pavement and are typically paved
with red brick. (i.e. as if the pavement continued
uninterrupted across the side road but turned red)
These are fine except that they have a concrete
kerb running along then of ~2-4cm high. A cyclist turning
left into one of these is streets is likely to hit this kerb at
a shallow angle and stands a pretty good chance
of having their front wheel skid out from under them,
particularly in the wet. (No I haven't done it yet!)

So my question is: does anyone know where I can
get a copy of road planning guidelines or whatever
that say that although the raised tables are fine,
having such kerbs is NOT A GOOD IDEA? I feel the LA
are more likely to listen if I advise them quoting an
"official document" rather than just my experience
(or inviting some of them to try cycling over them
themselves!)

Dave

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/page/dft_roads_504
775-01.hcsp

Excellent, Thanks