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race report: kleinerman/snowball 10k

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  1. As promised, here is the race report on my 10k run ...

    Showed up to the race Sunday morning. It was snowing heavily, about 32 degrees (or so I was told, it
    felt colder). The race was held in the memory of the late Joe Kleinerman, who died peacefully in his
    sleep at the age of 91.

    Met some team-mates on the way to the race. My team members had for the most part shown up -- this
    was a team points race. Did an easy warmup jog ... mostly to keep myself warm. Saw Global (who was
    wearing shorts) near the start line. Came over and chatted for a while. Everyone was nervous, and
    hoping that the race would go ahead, and they wouldn't make it a "fun run". The process of making
    these events "fun runs" appears to be motivated by litigation-consciousness more than anything else
    -- not technical issues.

    Close to the start of the race, the organiser announces that it will be a "fun run". Global is
    unhappy, most of the club runners including myself are disappointed. I deceided to go ahead and race
    anyway. Not sure what Global did -- I didn't see him in the race. Pretty sure old Joe would have
    wanted us to race. I decided to just go and race inspite of the conditions. It appears my teammates
    did the same, they all had their stopwatches going.

    So the race started. Since it was a "fun run", some of the walkers decided to seed themselves near
    the front, so the start was terribly slow. There was snow on the ground. Now I'll try to describe
    this in a way that satisfies people like Anders, who speak languages where there are 125 different
    ways to say "snow" ...

    The snow was a mix of fresh-fallen dry powdery snow, foot-trampled dry snow, and harder dry snow
    which had been packed down by the weight of a slow-moving car, lightly coated with a thin layer of
    fresh snow. So the ground wasn't very slippery but the surface was still somewhat slow because the
    powder isn't a very stable surface. For the most part, I tried to run on the firmer packed snow, it
    seemed to cause less energy loss.

    First mile marker comes up. After a very crowded and slow start, I passed the marker in 6:43. I
    attributed most of this to the slow start, but then the second mile marker comes up in 6:32. This
    mile felt like a reasonable effort, comparable in intensity to runs at about 6:20 pace completed
    over the same terrain. At this point, I decide not to worry too much about PRs, or the clock, and
    just run my best. I start pushing the pace a little harder, get to mile 3 in 6:18, and then start
    picking off runners. Mile 4 goes by in 6:18. I do more of the same during mile 5, but the 5 mile
    mark is missing-in-action, or maybe I'm thinking too hard about the runners up front to notice it.
    Little by little, I real them in. Some time later, I know from my watch and position on the course
    that we must have passed mile 5. I'm overtaken by some runners from rival clubs who appear to have
    seen that marker, I try to hang on. They gain some ground, but I'm able to bring them in and
    overtake them at the 6 mile mark. Then they bring out the big guns and go for a finishing kick. I'm
    game, I do the same. I end up crossing the line in what's close to a photo finish with one of them
    -- no idea which of us was first, but that's beside the point -- both of us *raced* and raced hard,
    which is what it's all about. Finished with a relatively slow 40:11. Adjusting for snow, I'd say
    it's comparable to about 39:09 in dry conditions, which more or less matches my 4 mile effort.

    Cheers and thanks for reading,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  2. Donovan Rebbechi <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    As promised,


    That was a threat. I didn't know you treadmill joggers had races. How does that work? Do you line
    them up at a starting line? Hook them together by computer?

  3. Quoted message said:

    I didn't know you treadmill joggers had races.


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    ...if Tmills enable you to clock times like Donovan did in this race, we should all be on Tmills
    tomorrow. This was tough running folks...no traction & freezing snow clinging to your face...as
    close to an Iditarod experience as one can come in the Big Apple.

    Yes, I wore shorts & came to race. 75 minutes before this event there was not one flake of snow on
    the ground, the road was dry and had traction. Heck, I put on NB 150's and shorts in the 24 degree
    weather looking to clock a 6:24 or there abouts 10K. I did 6:27 in this same race last year.
    Unfortunately..... before the start..an hour before....4"+ of snow had fallen and about 10 minutes
    before the start the race was cancelled....bummer. When they cancelled the race....I blew it off not
    being interested in the "fun run" Why? I made a choice....A). I could run in this "freezing snow
    stom mess" w/no chip, traction, & time scored or I could B). go back home across the street and get
    back into a cozy bed and snuggle with the girlfirend and read the Sunday paper. I have my priorities
    in order....I chose "B." Donovan met my girlfriend...and he can vouch that I made the right choice
    🙂 FYI and OT, my girlfriend adored Donovan and his Aussie accent...American women are always
    suckers for foreign accents....

    I'm guessing on what Donovan has reported here about his time....he might have finished in the top
    20 in his AG, a tough tough AG, 30-39. This was unclocked and unscored. This race in NYC usually
    draws about 3,000 runners. A 6:18/mile (ave. over this Winter 10K) gets you abou 150th place. But
    most people "bagged" the race due to the conditions....and those that stuck it out are real
    troopers...believe me. I stuck it out the week before in another cancelled race in the same [censored].
    Had no interest in doing it again....better options with my time 🙂

    Andrew...

  4. Quoted message said:

    There was snow on the ground. Now I'll try to describe this in a way that satisfies people like
    Anders, who speak languages where there are 125 different ways to say "snow" ...

    To paraphrase Cecil Adams: I have 125 words and phrases for snow, and I don't have to resort to
    other languages to do it. I have a powerful descriptive vocabulary.

    --
    Brian P. Baresch Fort Worth, Texas, USA Professional editing and proofreading

    If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

  5. In article said:
    Quoted message said:

    I didn't know you treadmill joggers had races.


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    ...if Tmills enable you to clock times like Donovan did in this race, we should all be on Tmills
    tomorrow. This was tough running folks...no traction

    Something lost on Willie [censored] (who unsurprisingly knows nothing about training) is that macho BS
    (which is where most of the treadmill bashing comes from) is not a valid training principle.

    Of the training principles one must adhere to in order to succeed at running (or for that matter,
    almost any fitness program), I would rank consistency as the most important.

    For some people, treadmills are a training option that facilitates consistency. For example,
    convenience of venue, (I can do a quick treadmill run in the gym), safety (especially female
    runners) and safe conditions (indoors versus ice, thunderstorms, snow-covered trails) are things
    make treadmills attractive options.

    Quoted message said:

    I have my priorities in order....I chose "B." Donovan met my girlfriend...and he can vouch that
    I made the right choice 🙂 FYI and OT, my

    You race way too often anyway. Trading in a race for time with your GF was the right choice.

    The weather report currently says "snow flurries late" for Sat., let's hope the bad weather is
    deferred until after the race ...

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

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