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Question on adipose tissue (fat)

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  1. I was skinny and well-conditioned for the first 25 years of
    my life (6'1", ~175lb, 34" waist). For the next 7 years I
    gained fat & muscle steadily, going from 175 to 200 (38"
    waist). For the next 3 years I gained quickly, mostly to my
    waist/belly, going up to 235 (~44" waist), on a very high-
    carb, high-fat, low-exercise diet. I suspect insulin issues
    were responsible for a lot of this fat gain (I drank
    ~120g/day of HFCS-55 sugar in sodas alone)

    Over the past year I have lost ~30lbs, back to ~200 through
    dieting (1000 kcal/day deficit) and exercise (cycling for an
    hour or two, 4 days/week).

    My question is simply did the 30lb gain I experienced from
    age 33-35 add adipocytes (fat cells) (known as hyperplastic
    growth), or did the existing fat cells just expand
    (hypertrophy)?

    (I'm hoping it's mostly the latter, of course)

  2. well, from my biochem class: fat cells do not divide (i.e.
    you don't make more when you gain weight/fat) they just get
    bigger. Fat cells are masters and packing it in (sadly...to
    efficient sometimes!). Anyway, when you diet and exercise to
    burn fat, the cells get smaller and hence you get smaller.
    The double edge sword, however, is that it's easier for them
    to get big again in the future. Think of it like a baloon.
    The new ones that have never been inflated are hard to blow
    up, but once they get blown up once and have the air let
    out, they are easier to blow up the second time. Bottom line
    is you gotta eat and exercise for life!! Hope that helps!!

    Cheers, Lisa (student of nutritional epidemiology)

    [email hidden] (Heywood Mogroot) wrote in message
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    I was skinny and well-conditioned for the first 25 years
    of my life (6'1", ~175lb, 34" waist). For the next 7 years
    I gained fat & muscle steadily, going from 175 to 200 (38"
    waist). For the next 3 years I gained quickly, mostly to
    my waist/belly, going up to 235 (~44" waist), on a very
    high-carb, high-fat, low-exercise diet. I suspect insulin
    issues were responsible for a lot of this fat gain (I
    drank ~120g/day of HFCS-55 sugar in sodas alone)

    Over the past year I have lost ~30lbs, back to ~200
    through dieting (1000 kcal/day deficit) and exercise
    (cycling for an hour or two, 4 days/week).

    My question is simply did the 30lb gain I experienced from
    age 33-35 add adipocytes (fat cells) (known as
    hyperplastic growth), or did the existing fat cells just
    expand (hypertrophy)?

    (I'm hoping it's mostly the latter, of course)

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    well, from my biochem class: fat cells do not divide (i.e.
    you don't make more when you gain weight/fat) they just
    get bigger.

    These 'classes' people go to are so full of cosily
    unchallenged [censored] orthodoxies that they ought to be
    called 'religious education'...

    Maybe the number of fat cells in a person is *not* a
    constant: channel4.com0
    9/4health/food/ove_fatvirus.html

    Philippic

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    Quoted message said:

    well, from my biochem class: fat cells do not divide (i.e.
    you don't make more when you gain weight/fat) they just
    get bigger.

    the reading (on the web) I've done says that the fat
    precursor cells grow in number via mitosis during the 3rd
    trimester and during adolescence, and later in life if/when
    the carrying capacity of existing fat cells is filled.

    Quoted message said:

    Fat cells are masters and packing it in (sadly...to
    efficient sometimes!). Anyway, when you diet and exercise
    to burn fat, the cells get smaller and hence you get
    smaller. The double edge sword, however, is that it's
    easier for them to get big again in the future. Think of
    it like a baloon. The new ones that have never been
    inflated are hard to blow up, but once they get blown up
    once and have the air let out, they are easier to blow up
    the second time. Bottom line is you gotta eat and exercise
    for life!! Hope that helps!!

    hmm, so there are also physiological changes even if there
    are no new fat cells made via hyperplastic growth. At this
    point I'm interested in the physical characteristics of what
    the depleted fat deposits will look like, and less about
    their physiological impact (I think I've addressed the over-
    eating problem).

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