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  1. This morning, while unicycling along my regular commute, I was pulled over
    by a cop for riding on the sidewalk. I avoided the summons, but only
    because I have a loud voice and I'm not afraid to use it.

    I was riding on the sidewalk that abuts a highway-like stretch of road.
    It's far too dangerous to ride on the street there -- it's filled with
    three lanes of fast, crowded traffic. If I were a bicyclist, I'd be
    entitled to a lane of traffic, but I have never seen a biker on that
    street, either, because it would be suicide to ride there. This sidewalk,
    on the other hand, is almost never trafficked because it's in a
    non-residential part of Brooklyn. In two years, I think I've seen two
    people walking this sidewalk, total.

    This short stretch of sidewalk is downhill and I was riding fast, so when
    the cop asked me to pull over, I yelled that I would as soon as I could.
    About 50 feet later, I hopped off and turned to find out what he wanted,
    tho I already suspected he was going to give me a hard time about riding
    on the sidewalk. This was odd because there are already two cops regularly
    stationed in the same spot (on account of the "terrorism threat"😉 whom I
    wave to every morning; they never give me a hard time -- just a smile and
    a nod. So this was some cop who has never been there before, and he was
    presumably acting on his own. He asked me to produce some ID, and I asked
    why. He explained that I wasn't supposed to be riding on the sidewalk, and
    I retorted that there is no law that specifies anything about unicycling
    -- and I mentioned how unicyclists have, in the recent past, gotten out of
    summonses before by showing the judge the appropriate passage from the
    law. I asked him (loudly) if he has had a lot of experience with unicycles
    -- like did he know that it's impossible to stop right away, or that
    unicycles are not covered (in NYC) by laws that only mentioned vehicles
    with two or more wheels.

    Joe, I need the exact passage so I can keep it with me for next time.

    Anyway, he wasn't satisfied, so he asked again for my ID, and I handed it
    to him. At this point, he told me he was going to write me a summons. I
    loudly mentioned (to him and all the cops around him) that it would look
    real silly on the news when I explained to reporters that I was being
    given a summons for unicycling on the sidewalk and that this cop would
    rather I take up a whole lane of morning traffic (blah blah blah). I also
    mentioned how silly it would look on his record that he had pulled over
    someone for riding a unicycle on the sidewalk.

    He stepped away, and I took the opportunity to seek out that officer whom
    I see on a regular basis. I explained the situation to him, and he seemed
    pained to side with either of us (he didn't know the exact law, but he
    clearly felt that I was posing no danger).

    Then the summons officer showed up again. He said that he was NOT going to
    write up a summons after all (a change of heart? No, I think someone told
    him not to bother). Not satisfied, I asked him if he will be there
    tomorrow and the next day, and he said yes. I said, "And I'm not going to
    get a summons tomorrow, am I?" and he said no.

    But Joe, I still need that law -- just to be safe.

    The meek might be inheriting the earth, but the loud avoid summonses (when
    they're within the law, anyway!).

    David Stone

    PS: Fun fact: Someone was being arrested while all of this was going on. I
    think it was for driving a truck without a proper license. I think the
    Terror Alert Level has abeen upgraded to "Mauve" or something.

  2. I wouldn't go boasting that there aren't any laws about unicycles in the
    NY Bi-Laws, that's the kind of attitude that will get laws put in place!
    But it's silly that the officer pulled you over just for that... he
    probably didn't have anything else to do or was just bored... And what
    is this about the terror-alert being mauve?? Is that a joke, or do you
    really have different colours for levels of terror-threat i.e. the
    equavalent of fire-threats during the dry-season or float-threats during
    the wet-season???

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  3. i (very very rarely) get stopped for riding my bike along the bike path
    after hours as i commute to/from, work.

    When asked if i know the trail is closed i reply that yes, i know, but
    i'm saving him the trouble of out a hit and run traffic fatality
    investigation.

    Works like a charm, esp. in winter.

    ..max

  4. ur said:

    But it's silly that the officer pulled you over just for that... he
    probably didn't have anything else to do or was just bored... And what
    is this about the terror-alert being mauve??

    If the police are worried about terrorist attacks, it might be
    reasonable for a policeman who's not used to seeing unicyclists riding
    around on their daily business to consider that the unicyclist
    (something unusual) may be there to divert attention away from something
    more sinister.

    I don't now what the current level of paranoia in NY is like, or whether
    it's justified, but if there is considered to be a high risk of further
    terrorist activity then the policeman may have been right to stop David
    (although not to threaten him with a summons). OTOH, if he was
    genuinely concerned that the unicyclist was supposed to be a diversion
    then he probably should have ignored David completely and taken a good
    look at what else was going on around him.

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    Danny Colyer (my reply address is valid but checked infrequently)
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  5. David Stone said:

    This morning, while unicycling along my regular commute, I was pulled over
    by a cop for riding on the sidewalk. I avoided the summons, but only
    because I have a loud voice and I'm not afraid to use it.

    I was riding on the sidewalk that abuts a highway-like stretch of road.
    It's far too dangerous to ride on the street there -- it's filled with
    three lanes of fast, crowded traffic. If I were a bicyclist, I'd be
    entitled to a lane of traffic, but I have never seen a biker on that
    street, either, because it would be suicide to ride there. This sidewalk,
    on the other hand, is almost never trafficked because it's in a
    non-residential part of Brooklyn. In two years, I think I've seen two
    people walking this sidewalk, total.

    This short stretch of sidewalk is downhill and I was riding fast, so when
    the cop asked me to pull over, I yelled that I would as soon as I could.
    About 50 feet later, I hopped off and turned to find out what he wanted,
    tho I already suspected he was going to give me a hard time about riding
    on the sidewalk. This was odd because there are already two cops regularly
    stationed in the same spot (on account of the "terrorism threat"😉 whom I
    wave to every morning; they never give me a hard time -- just a smile and
    a nod. So this was some cop who has never been there before, and he was
    presumably acting on his own. He asked me to produce some ID, and I asked
    why. He explained that I wasn't supposed to be riding on the sidewalk, and
    I retorted that there is no law that specifies anything about unicycling
    -- and I mentioned how unicyclists have, in the recent past, gotten out of
    summonses before by showing the judge the appropriate passage from the
    law. I asked him (loudly) if he has had a lot of experience with unicycles
    -- like did he know that it's impossible to stop right away, or that
    unicycles are not covered (in NYC) by laws that only mentioned vehicles
    with two or more wheels.

    Joe, I need the exact passage so I can keep it with me for next time.

    Anyway, he wasn't satisfied, so he asked again for my ID, and I handed it
    to him. At this point, he told me he was going to write me a summons. I
    loudly mentioned (to him and all the cops around him) that it would look
    real silly on the news when I explained to reporters that I was being
    given a summons for unicycling on the sidewalk and that this cop would
    rather I take up a whole lane of morning traffic (blah blah blah). I also
    mentioned how silly it would look on his record that he had pulled over
    someone for riding a unicycle on the sidewalk.

    He stepped away, and I took the opportunity to seek out that officer whom
    I see on a regular basis. I explained the situation to him, and he seemed
    pained to side with either of us (he didn't know the exact law, but he
    clearly felt that I was posing no danger).

    Then the summons officer showed up again. He said that he was NOT going to
    write up a summons after all (a change of heart? No, I think someone told
    him not to bother). Not satisfied, I asked him if he will be there
    tomorrow and the next day, and he said yes. I said, "And I'm not going to
    get a summons tomorrow, am I?" and he said no.

    But Joe, I still need that law -- just to be safe.

    The meek might be inheriting the earth, but the loud avoid summonses (when
    they're within the law, anyway!).

    David Stone

    PS: Fun fact: Someone was being arrested while all of this was going on. I
    think it was for driving a truck without a proper license. I think the
    Terror Alert Level has abeen upgraded to "Mauve" or something.

    I find your comment that you could not stop for 50feet very interesting.
    Accepting that this sidewalk is not used a great deal by pedestrians,
    you are probably safe to ride there. However, if the sidewalk was busy,
    then it's difficult to predict what's going to happen. You may need
    to stop in a hurry to avoid crashing into a small child, old granny,
    whatever. In those circumstances, do you still feel it would be
    acceptable to ride such that you couldn't stop quickly? Surely common
    sense overrules laws in such circumstances?

    Learner

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