Problem with KH seats?



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Recently me and my friend Nick were redoing his KH airseat to make the
seat more comfortable for grabbing in seat out hops. When we took off
the cover we noticed that the metal plate across the seat split in half
where the holes were for the post.

I didn't think much of it until I was helping Joe put Nicks old KH cover
on Joes seat. When we took the old one off we again noticed the plate
split in the same spot. Nicks seat flexes a lot but Joes isn't too
bad.

Has anyone else had any problems with this? Nicks seat was a gen-3 and
Joes a gen-2. We didn't take pics.


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bugman wrote:
> *This thread is worthless without pics.:) *


No it isn't.

Every KH seat I have taken apart has had the metal piece split in the
same spot.

It's poorly made, and a split piece of metal is as good as no metal at
all.

Each newer version of the KH seat seems to get better designed, taking
the previous versions downsides into consideration. This is VERY cool,
and something to be expected really, as they are still relatively new,
and will need to be improved upon with each model.

Kris Holm Unicycles is very good in the 'fixing the last models issues',
but as it stands now, they are still pretty poorly constructed.

There is a new version coming out in the summer or so, and I'm sure
these issues will be addressed.

I think the bigger issue, over those stiffening plates that don't
stiffen (because they break) would be a way of securing the bolts from
spinning. I think the homemade fix for these (a bent piece of threaded
rod to act as 2 bolts (no spinning issues) should be incorporated into
the newer versions, because as long as these are carriage bolts, they
are going to suffer the same issues. But, like I said about KHU
addressing these issues, the next version will have a removeable
cover...perhaps you can grab onto the bolts with a vise grip...like I
have done already.

These seats are extremely comfy, and each model that is released keeps
getting better and better.

I think in 2 years these seats will be perfect.


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bugman wrote:
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> I can't imagine that KH seats aren't indestructable. *


Whats that, a triple negative? :) Had to read that about 4 times till
finally my brain turned on and understood, hehe.

When doing muni or trials, what is the first thing to usually brake?
Tacoed wheel? bend cranks? ripped seat?

-grant


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tennisgh22 wrote:
> *
>
> Whats that, a triple negative? :) Had to read that about 4 times till
> finally my brain turned on and understood, hehe.
>
> When doing muni or trials, what is the first thing to usually brake?
> Tacoed wheel? bend cranks? ripped seat?
>
> -grant *


If it's a Velo seat? The ripped seat. (where the thighs rub it)


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I've taken apart 3 KH seat, two from my muni and one from my trials and
they all had the snap along the same part described above. The bolts
were a nightmare to remove. I think it was landing on them funny that
did it. Got a CF KH base for my trials now which feels really solid!


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tennisgh22 wrote:
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>
> Whats that, a triple negative? :) Had to read that about 4 times till
> finally my brain turned on and understood, hehe.
>
> When doing muni or trials, what is the first thing to usually brake?
> Tacoed wheel? bend cranks? ripped seat?
>
> -grant *


I thought only double negatives were a problem.:D


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tennisgh22 wrote:
> *
>
> Whats that, a triple negative? :) Had to read that about 4 times till
> finally my brain turned on and understood, hehe.
>
> When doing muni or trials, what is the first thing to usually brake?
> Tacoed wheel? bend cranks? ripped seat?
>
> -grant *


Rule # 1 - If you critique another's post, make sure yours is correct.
It's not brake, it's break. ;)

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Sofa wrote:
> *
>
> I think the bigger issue, over those stiffening plates that don't
> stiffen (because they break) would be a way of securing the bolts from
> spinning. I think the homemade fix for these (a bent piece of
> threaded rod to act as 2 bolts (no spinning issues) should be
> incorporated into the newer versions, because as long as these are
> carriage bolts, they are going to suffer the same issues. But, like I
> said about KHU addressing these issues, the next version will have a
> removeable cover...perhaps you can grab onto the bolts with a vise
> grip...like I have done already.
>
> *


I couldn't agree more!

The KH seat IMHO is the best seat out there. I have not used my Carbon
Fibre/Wilder/Roach Airseat since using the KH Seat.

The KH seat is also a total dog. It must be in it's fourth generation
and those spinning bolts still, as far as I can tell- spin. (I think
I've got a 2nd and 3rd gen seat).

Not only do they spin, they are also just about impossible to get to if
your seat is as low as it can go. And when you take the seat off so
that you can get the spanner under the seat to tighten the spinning
bolt, it starts rounding off the bolt because the bolt is...a lousy nut.


They should have been replaced with Allen Key bolts a longtime ago.
That means screwing it in from the other direction, and having somewort
of anchor to keep it from spinning; but it will save a lot of grief for
KH Seat owners.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Ken


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