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Principia Gear selection Problems

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    Does anyone out there have a Principia bike with problems shifting between
    large and small rings at the Front??

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and crankset and Dura Ace
    rear mech and Bar end shifters. Shifting up to the large ring at the front
    is almost impossible. after much grinding and stopping pedalling it shifts
    up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will last long)

    The bike is new, Although purchased before the winter it has been ridden
    once and not been right ever.

    I have had the bike looked at by my local bike shop , who couldn't get it
    working (despite having an experienced mechanic), then by the company I
    purchased it from (2 hrs drive away from home). they said they found that
    the gear selection cable had pulled through the sheath (and they replaced
    the front Mech) and then they sent the bike back, But it is still the same,
    they did say bar end shifters are not as smooth as STIs. I figured it was a
    problem with the frame and was about the get them to swap it for a Rexe Pro
    frame instead (they have bolt on frame lugs where as the T2 is braised on).
    But!!
    At a race last night I was speaking to someone who was frustrated and having
    the same problem with her Principia, Rexe Pro, with Full Dura-ace all round
    including the STi.s

    So anyone else have this problem ?? Is it an issue with Principia frame
    geometry.

    Note my £600 Giant with Tiagra components shifts sweet every time in any
    situation (even with about 4000 miles on it), so surely I should expect
    equal if not better performance from a new £3000 bike?

    Any suggestions or notes from others with similar problems would help

    cheers all

    Andy

  2. sparky.g said:

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and crankset and Dura
    Ace rear mech and Bar end shifters. Shifting up to the large ring at
    the front is almost impossible. after much grinding and stopping
    pedalling it shifts up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will
    last long)

    Have you tried adjusting the height and rotation of the derailleur in
    relation to the chainring? It may have been pushed or knocked at some point.
    I can't imagine that a LBS would have missed any other adjustments as front
    derailleurs are not *that* difficult to set up. Try taking it to another
    shop.

    Quoted message said:

    Note my £600 Giant with Tiagra components shifts sweet every time in
    any situation (even with about 4000 miles on it), so surely I should
    expect equal if not better performance from a new £3000 bike?

    Quite. If it really is a dud, then send it back. Not fit for purpose.

  3. "sparky.g" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone out there have a Principia bike with problems shifting between
    large and small rings at the Front??

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and crankset and Dura Ace
    rear mech and Bar end shifters. Shifting up to the large ring at the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    is almost impossible. after much grinding and stopping pedalling it


    shifts

    Quoted message said:

    up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will last long)

    It strikes me that this is unlikely to be anything to do with front mech
    adjustment, if you and two shops have all failed to get it working better.
    TBH, I'm not at all sure, and I'm responding because no one else appears to
    have any idea. I used to build Principias, and never experienced this type
    of problem. I think my next steps would be:

    1/. Check all the cables for smooth operation, and make sure that the lever
    isn't right at it's extreme when in the big ring. If it is, and the lever
    needs its full range (which it shouldn't, if it's a Dura Ace barcon & front
    mech), try clamping the cable on the other side of the clamp bolt.
    2/. Check that the chainrings have been correctly fitted (and - you'll
    obviously know this straight away - that the sizes are appropriate, and not
    39-56, e.g.);
    3/. Try a completely different type of chain;
    4/. Check that the bottom bracket length is correct - is the mech at or near
    it's limit in the big ring?

    HTH

  4. "Simon D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "sparky.g" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone out there have a Principia bike with problems shifting


    between

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    large and small rings at the Front??

    I have a TT2 Light with an Ultegra front mech, and crankset and Dura Ace
    rear mech and Bar end shifters. Shifting up to the large ring at the


    front

    Quoted message said:

    is almost impossible. after much grinding and stopping pedalling it


    shifts

    Quoted message said:

    up eventually. ( I don;t suppose the chain will last long)

    It strikes me that this is unlikely to be anything to do with front mech
    adjustment, if you and two shops have all failed to get it working better.

    Well, I watched a bike shop bloke trying for ages to sort out somebody's
    front mech when he had these symptoms. It was on wonky, and he didn't
    notice. Neither did the owner.

    So I'd check that first - is the cage parallel to the chain?

    cheers,
    clive

  5. Simon D said:

    It strikes me that this is unlikely to be anything to do with front
    mech adjustment, if you and two shops have all failed to get it
    working better.

    Never underestimate the cluelessness of some shops. Make sure the the mech
    is straight.

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