"cucycln" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:Tom....point out your source of facts on this.... or you just shooting
from
Quoted message said:the hip because you are so bored and have nothing else to do? again!
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:The pathetic part about all of this is the patent denial of Canadians
when
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:there is an entire market segment of the US health care system devoted entirely to Canadians.
Isn't it about time you try to school us all in what racist ideas I have?
San Francisco, CA - While American politicians tout Canadian health care and lead bus tours across
the border, Canadians themselves increasingly board buses for the United States to seek treatment
and purchase prescription drugs not available under their own government plan. This is according to
Lessons from the North: Bus Travelers Bring the Reality of Rationed Health Care and Price-Controlled
Drugs over the Border, a briefing released today by the Pacific Research Institute (PRI).
On February 3, ABC aired a report by correspondent Deborah Amos in Toronto, depicting a country
"struggling with universal healthcare." Most of Amos' report was taken up by grim descriptions of
crowded hospitals: "The emergency rooms in Toronto hospitals are so clogged this winter, patients
wait hours for critical treatment," Amos reported. "They sleep on stretchers in drafty hallways. And
wait days for a hospital bed."
"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."
- P.J. O'Rourke
By William McArthur, former chief coroner for British Columbia. He is a palliative care physician
and senior fellow in health policy studies at the Fraser Institute.
(speaking about Canada's health care system) "Canadians over the age of 65 use health care at four
times the rate of those under 65 and thus are more exposed to the deficiencies. Moreover, the
treatments elders need most often are the ones where the worst shortages exist. According to the
Fraser Institute's annual survey of hospital waiting lists, the median patient waits 70% longer than
is medically reasonable, in the view of their physicians. Waits for cardiac surgery are 145% longer
than medically reasonable, 90% longer for orthopedics (hips and knees) and 75% longer for
ophthalmologic (cataracts and lens replacement) surgery." (Note the term "medically reasonable" - do
you understand what that means?)
From the von Mises Institute:
"This popular superficial view of Canada's health care system as the national "sacred trust" and the
envy of the rest of the world does not reveal how poorly informed people really are about how health
care is funded and delivered. In fact, if Canadians knew as much as they think they do about the
economic and moral workings of Medicare, they might not be as enthusiastic as they are about their
cherished right to "free" health care."
In case you think that the Canadian government doesn't know it what about this statement by a
Canadian MP?
"Miss Deborah Grey (Edmonton North, Ref.): Mr. Speaker, today 200,000 Canadians are still on waiting
lines in hospitals. But if they are wealthy or desperate they could jump the queue and fly down to
the United States for treatment. They could pay cash for health care. If that is not two tier, if
that is not American style health care, I do not know what is."
The facts are that Canada has benefitted from the fact that they are a far healthier population from
the start then the much more greatly mixed American population. They admit as much. Also the
Canadian medical system is one of medical rationing and not one of medical service. This works
passably well when the population is young and healthy but when Canada's baby boomers start putting
a greater strain on their system as is just beginning, it is likely to collapse like the house of
cards that it is.
