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Pizza Wars on Travel Channel

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  1. Interesting show on the Travel Channel this weekend, called "The Pizza Wars", pitting Chicago style
    vs. NY style.

    Watching it made me very very hungry for pizza, but it's too damn cold to go out for it! Maybe
    tomorrow.....

    They discussed the history of pizza in the US, and how it started at Lombardi's in NYC in 1905.
    Well, that may be so for NY, but I heard someplace that pizza in the US started in New Haven CT at
    Frank Pepe's.

    Anyway, they showcased Lombardi's, Grimaldi's (That's the one not far from Jacques Torres' chocolate
    shop in Brooklyn!), Patsy's, and the trio of Ray's chains. I am a huge devotee of coal-fired or wood-
    fired oven pizza, and I'm very lucky to have not one, but TWO wood-fired brick oven pizza joints
    within a 5 minute drive of my apartment.

    They also discussed Chicago style, deep-dish pizza.

    The hour ended in a taste-test, three of them, actually. They brought in NYC and Chicago pies to a
    fire station in Chicago and in NYC, and of course, local preferences prevailed. Then as a tie
    breaker, they went to a Los Angeles fire station and did the same test. Guess what? NYC Style pizza
    won in LA. No big surprise, because all the nationwide pizza chains make pies that are modeled on
    the NYC style. Note I said "modeled" on it....how close they get is up for debate. I wouldn't mind a
    chain pizza, if it's one of the Italian family run chains, such as Sbarro's, Famous Ray's, RayBari,
    etc. Pizza Hut, Domino's and the other franchises are not real pizza to me, but that prejudice is
    because I have a plenitude of REAL, locally made pizza to choose from where I live. I realize there
    are places that only have the chains, and that's what they know, so that's what they like.

    i find it curious what the Chicago firefighters said about the NY pizza....they felt the Chicago
    style crust had more flavor, they preferred all the toppings, heavier cheese, heavier sauce. To me,
    that's the incredible beauty of pizza. It's 3 simple things, maybe four. It's crust--flour, water,
    salt, sugar, yeast and maybe a bit of olive oil. It's tomato sauce--it's cheese and maybe a topping
    of sausage or mushrooms or what have you. I think it's simplicity exemplified. It's the perfect
    example of "less is more". I've always been a fan of "plain" pizza, or one topping, maybe two if
    they "go" together, like mushrooms and onions. Or onions and peppers. Never gone for "extra cheese"
    or too many toppings. It's like gilding the lily. It's why i don't go for sundaes, I prefer not to
    hide my ice cream under all that other "stuff". Just give me good ice cream, in a bowl or a cone,
    and I'm happy. I'd rather have one slice of perfect brick oven "plain" pizza than 3 slices of
    Domino's, loaded with topping.

    It's kind of odd, for me to realize that, because I don't like "plain" food, I like seasoned foods
    with complex flavors, give me lots of onion and garlic, herbs, etc. But with some things, simpler is
    better, and pizza is definitely one of those things for me.

    While I like Chicago style deep dish pizza, as it's own thing, when I want pizza, I want thin crust
    pizza. They are two entirely different things.

    Anyway, it was an interesting program. Made me hungry for thin-crust pizza.

  2. "Sheryl Rosen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It's kind of odd, for me to realize that, because I don't like "plain"


    food,

    Quoted message said:

    I like seasoned foods with complex flavors, give me lots of onion and garlic, herbs, etc. But with
    some things, simpler is better, and pizza is definitely one of those things for me.

    Like you, I enjoy the zen of a simple pie. I never order the 'garbage' pie, that large combination
    with everything on it, but rather, just sausage or just clams on a white pie or red pie. To me it's
    like a BLT; don't overdo it and start adding turkey or avocado.

    Jack Zen

    PS Was in NH today and tried Modern Pizza for the first time. Right up there with Pepe's and
    Sally's, although the white clam pie at Pepe's is the true benchmark.

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