PING: Wysong

Wysong *~' P@P said:

I ate the cheaper fish Jaime. I like seafood such as scallops, crab and
shrimp, but couldn't afford it as a regular part of my diet. My husband
will not eat anything but baked or fried fish.

Sorry to hear it is expensive there. I'm pretty lucky to live in an
area where there are 4 different grocery stores within a few minutes
bus ride of me so I can pretty much pick and choose which store I am
shopping in based on thier flyer sales. A little further away are the
independent butchers and fish mongers. Even a few cheese shops.

One store up the street from me has the cheapest prices around for
fish and seafood. I visit there twice a week.

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I'm *not* a bad person. I simply made the
mistake of getting involved with a *jack*ss*.
Is it a coincidence that he lives on a farm?
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Roger Zoul said:

There do seem to be a good number of people who say they don't like fish.
I think it stems from ignorance -- not having anyone make good baked or
broiled fish.

And/or not knowing where to buy fresh fish. Much supermarket fish is
on the smelly and unfresh side.

Growing up, the only fish my mother ever prepared was swordfish, which
is a strong-tasting fish in the first place, and it was less than
fresh from the supermarket. I hated it and thought I hated fish.

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jamie ([email hidden])

"There's a seeker born every minute."

Wysong *~ said:

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:22:21 -0600, "Wysong *~" <P@P> wrote:

Do you ever swim? It is my fav exercise.

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Yes. I love to swim but haven't in a long time, again because of the nasty
smell at the gym and that heavy rock music. The chlorine in the water there
was causing me some problems breathing and burned my eyes,... but I went in
the pool for those months anyway. In summer I used to walk to the lake and
swim, but that friend moved away and it's inadvisable to swim alone. The
nearest YMCA is too far away. My husband will not swim at the lake although
he knows how....

Why don't you two just get a room?

(jamie) said:

And/or not knowing where to buy fresh fish. Much supermarket fish is
on the smelly and unfresh side.

That also depends on how fresh each individual store keeps thier fish.
I know of one store around my area where they keep thier fish
extremely fresh and then there are the others who do not.

Quoted message said:

Growing up, the only fish my mother ever prepared was swordfish, which
is a strong-tasting fish in the first place, and it was less than
fresh from the supermarket. I hated it and thought I hated fish.

Even though I was raised by people who were born and raised in New
Brunswick and I come from a long line of fishermen and I have a love
of fish and seafood, I once tried shark but never liked that because
it was so strong tasting.

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(jamie) said:

And/or not knowing where to buy fresh fish. Much supermarket fish is
on the smelly and unfresh side.

That also depends on how fresh each individual store keeps thier fish.
I know of one store around my area where they keep thier fish
extremely fresh and then there are the others who do not.

Quoted message said:

Growing up, the only fish my mother ever prepared was swordfish, which
is a strong-tasting fish in the first place, and it was less than
fresh from the supermarket. I hated it and thought I hated fish.

Even though I was raised by people who were born and raised in New
Brunswick and I come from a long line of fishermen and I have a love
of fish and seafood, I once tried shark but never liked that because
it was so strong tasting.

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You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is!
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I have tried seafood/fish on quite a few occasions and still do not like it.
I am certainly not ignorant and even when people have had me try the fish
they got (at a decent place) - I still didn't like it. I just do not like
seafood and probably never will. I don't feel I am losing out on anything.
Diane

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 01:52:15 GMT, "Diane Ball" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have tried seafood/fish on quite a few occasions and still do not like it.
I am certainly not ignorant and even when people have had me try the fish
they got (at a decent place) - I still didn't like it. I just do not like
seafood and probably never will. I don't feel I am losing out on anything.

Not everyone likes fish. That doesn't make you a bad person. :-)

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JC Der Koenig said:

If you're getting nowhere, try eating less and exercising more.

More one-liners by JC for your NG viewing.

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"jaime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Maybe she doesn't like fish. Not many people do.
:

ROTFLMAO!
(this is getting to be good exercise!)

in my circles, i am the ONLY person i know who doesn't like
fish........................it really is rather embarrassing!

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FYI, since we dump all our waste into water and ocean, try to eat fishes in
lower food chain to avoid high does of various toxic chemicals and heavy
metals.

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"Mogget" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It's nice to see you posting again. I was thinking about you just the
other day, wondering how you were getting on.

Did you ever find anything that kick-started your weight loss? Or are
you like me, still getting absolutely nowhere?

===============
Hi Mogget. I was getting absolutely nowhere with strict low-carb after the
5th month. Nothing would kick-start it again. I maintained for 2 years and
finally gave it up in disgust. My diet was so limited at that point I
couldn't stand it anymore.

I do so know what you mean there :-(

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I'm losing now on low-fat/low-carb Weight
Watchers. :-) I'm loving all the variety as well. I was to the point
that one more steak or slice of bacon would make me puke.

Ditto. The only thing I can summon up any enthusiasm for any more is
vegetables. I try and try but I can't get any meat down any more. It
makes me gag. I can eat fish without too much trouble, but I don't
particularly enjoy it. I like Quorn chunks. I got the meat-aversion
thing was I was pregnant & hoped it would go back to normal after I had
my baby... two years later, it still hasn't.

Is the low fat/low carb WW thing your own devising, or is it a plan
provided by the WW people? If your own, would you mind awfully posting
a summary please?

LC worked so well for me for a long time; I felt well, more than happy
with the food choices, and I loved the weight loss side effects. Now
none of those are true.

You are right that I should think of alternatives. LC clearly isn't
working for me on any level. Trouble is, I'm diabetic, so it does have
to be at least restricted carb/low GI.

It just occurred to me that the one thing I haven't tried yet is a raw
food diet. Hmmm.

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Tonight I'm
having baked fish, 1/2 cup of sweet peas and as much low-carb veggies I can
comfortably consume (a mix of mushrooms, broccoli and zucchini/1 pat
butter). If strict low-carb doesn't work for you you may think about a
switch to another diet that may work. :o) I'm also walking 1 to 3 miles a
day. I don't think I would be losing this quickly if I wasn't doing the
walking. As for calories - I'm consuming about 1200 a day.

Fairly reasonable calorie count there. Do you feel hungry on it?

Thanks v much for replying to my original post. I'm very glad that
things are going relatively well for you.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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Koenig <[email hidden]> writes

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Ok, why didn't you?

<sigh>

There are so many answers to that one that I've decided to play it
straight.

I have done. Quite a lot. Sometimes as a result of illness. Sometimes
as a deliberate thing. Sometimes I lose so much that I am actually slim
again. Always but always my health is damaged thereby.

At this stage, my health is my priority. Something is majorly screwed
up. On top of CFS and T2 diabetes, I appear to have Cushing's Syndrome,
which is one of those arsewipe endocrinological conditions where you
might as well send yourself to the glue factory.

If I felt well but remained overweight, I would <shrug> and accept it.
If I lost all the weight I need to, but remained ill, that would not be
ok. However, at this point, where I am ill, and so fat I'm waddling
around in clothes made by Omar the Tentmaker, I am fairly desperate. I
feel so ill I could die. If I don't get this weight off, I will. I'm
only 35. I feel old.

So. Got any ideas for me? Don't be shy. You might be the one who
makes the suggestion that helps me turn this around.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

"Mogget" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So. Got any ideas for me? Don't be shy. You might be the one who makes
the suggestion that helps me turn this around.

Mogget, what's your exercise routine like? I've gone from a size 26 to a 14
by LC-ing, walking for an hour a day, and weightlifting. I'm a huge fan of
weightlifting now, because it a) allows your muscles to suck glucose out of
your bloodstream whatever your IR level, and continues to do so for some
time after you've stopped, and b) generally increases your metabolism. From
your POV, with a small sprog, it also has the advantage that it can be
picked up and put down at odd moments during the day, when Madam is asleep -
if she's too old to go in a pushchair, a couple of 30-min walks will be a
right pain! Any walking is better than none, though. I'm consciously trying
to be more active, and stopping myself from working out the most efficient
way to move about - some days, I walk a couple of miles just puttering
around the house!

Nicky.

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A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/78/72Kg
1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

Why do you never mention exercise?

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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"Mogget" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, JC Der
Koenig <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Ok, why didn't you?

<sigh>

There are so many answers to that one that I've decided to play it
straight.

I have done. Quite a lot. Sometimes as a result of illness. Sometimes
as a deliberate thing. Sometimes I lose so much that I am actually slim
again. Always but always my health is damaged thereby.

At this stage, my health is my priority. Something is majorly screwed up.
On top of CFS and T2 diabetes, I appear to have Cushing's Syndrome, which
is one of those arsewipe endocrinological conditions where you might as
well send yourself to the glue factory.

If I felt well but remained overweight, I would <shrug> and accept it. If
I lost all the weight I need to, but remained ill, that would not be ok.
However, at this point, where I am ill, and so fat I'm waddling around in
clothes made by Omar the Tentmaker, I am fairly desperate. I feel so ill
I could die. If I don't get this weight off, I will. I'm only 35. I
feel old.

So. Got any ideas for me? Don't be shy. You might be the one who makes
the suggestion that helps me turn this around.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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"Mogget" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In message <[email hidden]>, Wysong *~

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Did you ever find anything that kick-started your weight loss? Or are
you like me, still getting absolutely nowhere?

===============
Hi Mogget. I was getting absolutely nowhere with strict low-carb after

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

5th month. Nothing would kick-start it again. I maintained for 2 years

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

finally gave it up in disgust. My diet was so limited at that point I
couldn't stand it anymore.

Quoted message said:

I do so know what you mean there :-(

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm losing now on low-fat/low-carb Weight
Watchers. :-) I'm loving all the variety as well. I was to the point
that one more steak or slice of bacon would make me puke.

Quoted message said:

Ditto. The only thing I can summon up any enthusiasm for any more is
vegetables. I try and try but I can't get any meat down any more.

$$ OMG I know that feeling. Tonight I had a veg' medley in Chicken Bouillon
for dinner. No meat at all. I'll have a piece of fruit before I go to bed
and a cup of apple-spice tea w/Sweet & Low. The only carbs all afternoon
will be those in the fruit. This morning I had a small banana, nothing
else. Lunch was one of those Healthy Choice Frozen Diet dinners (320
calories). I aslso had 2 glasses of fat-free skim milk.

It

Quoted message said:

makes me gag. I can eat fish without too much trouble, but I don't
particularly enjoy it. I like Quorn chunks. I got the meat-aversion
thing was I was pregnant & hoped it would go back to normal after I had
my baby... two years later, it still hasn't.

$$ I fully understand. When I was pregnant (many moons ago) I couldn't
stand the sight of pork in any form. Even the smell of a roast in the oven
made me gag. It passed slowing after my baby was born.

Quoted message said:

Is the low fat/low carb WW thing your own devising, or is it a plan
provided by the WW people? If your own, would you mind awfully posting
a summary please?

$$ It's based on the WW 1-2-3 Success Program. But instead of getting many
points (calories) from carbs, I use my points on more protein foods. To sum
it up - what it is is a low-fat/medium-carb/medium protein diet of about
1200 calories a day.

Quoted message said:

LC worked so well for me for a long time; I felt well, more than happy
with the food choices, and I loved the weight loss side effects. Now
none of those are true.

$$ Did you just stall permanently as I did? I don't know how I managed to
stick to it for wasted 2 years. After the first 6 months I should have
tried something else.

Quoted message said:

You are right that I should think of alternatives. LC clearly isn't
working for me on any level. Trouble is, I'm diabetic, so it does have
to be at least restricted carb/low GI.

$$ Then you have to do something else - like "cut the calories" across the
board. Count calories for a few days to see how many you're consuming -
then start cutting back. You may also need to exercise more as you probably
already know.

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It just occurred to me that the one thing I haven't tried yet is a raw
food diet. Hmmm.

$$ I love veggies but most are not that good raw. Cooking doesn't add the
calories - the butter or sour cream does.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Tonight I'm
having baked fish, 1/2 cup of sweet peas and as much low-carb veggies I

can

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

comfortably consume (a mix of mushrooms, broccoli and zucchini/1 pat
butter). If strict low-carb doesn't work for you you may think about a
switch to another diet that may work. :o) I'm also walking 1 to 3 miles

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

day. I don't think I would be losing this quickly if I wasn't doing the
walking. As for calories - I'm consuming about 1200 a day.

Fairly reasonable calorie count there. Do you feel hungry on it?

$$ At times - yes. But there is nothing for nothing in this world. A
little hunger can be tolerated for the payoff of lost weight.

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Thanks v much for replying to my original post. I'm very glad that
things are going relatively well for you.

$$ Thanks. :o)

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Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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"Moon Shooter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

FYI, since we dump all our waste into water and ocean, try to eat fishes

in

Quoted message said:

lower food chain to avoid high does of various toxic chemicals and heavy
metals.

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Good advice. All we can afford are whiting and canned tuna. My husband is
semi-retired.
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Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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"Wysong *~" <P@P> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

$$ It's based on the WW 1-2-3 Success Program. But instead of getting

many

Quoted message said:

points (calories) from carbs, I use my points on more protein foods. To

sum

Quoted message said:

it up - what it is is a low-fat/medium-carb/medium protein diet of about
1200 calories a day.

I'm curious. What percentage of calories would that break down to? I mean
the fat/carb/protein. According to Fitday for the last 30 days, mine is
48/24/22 + 2% alcohol. (I don't know why it doesn't add up to 100% unless
that's where the fiber comes in.)

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No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

"Wysong *~" <P@P> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

$$ It's based on the WW 1-2-3 Success Program. But instead of getting

many

Quoted message said:

points (calories) from carbs, I use my points on more protein foods. To

sum

Quoted message said:

it up - what it is is a low-fat/medium-carb/medium protein diet of about
1200 calories a day.

I'm curious. What percentage of calories would that break down to? I mean
the fat/carb/protein. According to Fitday for the last 30 days, mine is
48/24/22 + 2% alcohol. (I don't know why it doesn't add up to 100% unless
that's where the fiber comes in.)

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

In message <[email hidden]>, JC Der
Koenig <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Why do you never mention exercise?

Well, one doesn't like to brag.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

In message <[email hidden]>, JC Der
Koenig <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Why do you never mention exercise?

Well, one doesn't like to brag.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat