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  1. MartinM said:

    For different values of the word "fun"

    For me, the "fun" is the satisfaction of having completed a difficult
    ride...

    Quoted message said:

    Never again, 2AAA points on a 300k requires a lot of pain. Scenery was
    nice though.

    I was just discussing this morning with a club colleague (who this year
    has done both the Invicta Grimpeur and Mad Jack's as training for the
    Etape) how the AAA formula seems designed to make it exponentially
    harder to get points on longer rides, ie a 300k ride with 1 AAA point
    has more than 3 times as much climbing as a 100k with 1 AAA point. Or
    something like that.

    Well done for living to tell the tale, though.

    d.

  2. davek said:
    MartinM said:

    For different values of the word "fun"

    For me, the "fun" is the satisfaction of having completed a difficult

    Quoted message said:

    ride...

    Yes the prospect of a nice warm bed at the end was a big carrot. This
    ride was extremely scenic as well; took a few photos with a disposable
    camera, might put them up somewhere. What I like about Mid Wales is it
    is almost completely deserted most of the year round.

  3. MartinM said:

    Just looking up the AUK rules, if you ride an event before you get
    your route sheet you have to ride it again (tomorrow) ;-)

    Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander) takes in much
    of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname, which should be fun, wind
    permitting...

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Whatever it is, I'd like it in mango & passion fruit, please.

  4. Dave Larrington said:

    Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    --
    Dave...

  5. dkahn400 said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    Yes.

    Oops and, moreover, d'oh.

    (Tolchocks self on gulliver with old Zefal HPX)

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    und keine Eie.

  6. MartinM said:

    How did you get on Dave Khan?

    It was fine.

    In the cyclists' tradition of beginning with one's excuses, I'm still
    nursing a sore and swollen knee from Down Ampney 4 weeks ago, and have
    also picked up the cough and sore throat that's going round at work. I
    therefore decided to take it very gently, at least until the first
    control at Woburn. When 6 o'clock rolled round therefore, and the
    smallish field took to the road, I nipped upstairs to use Liz's loo
    thus giving them 5 minutes start and avoiding any temptation to chase
    the faster riders.

    After less than 2 miles I met a recumbent rider coming towards me
    either late for the start or retracing his route. He was travelling
    very slowly and not looking entirely happy. I stopped to have a word
    and he explained that he had stripped his freewheel and was trying to
    get back to Liz's house. There was nothing I could do to help other
    than make sympathetic noises. While I was talking to him Mel Kirkland,
    who had started a little late, came streaking past in full time trial
    mode.

    A couple of miles further on I passed another rider who was changing
    his rear tube, thus promoting myself temporarily from the lanterne
    rouge spot.

    As I approached Harefield there was an interesting puzzle in the route
    sheet. The instructions were to turn right at a roundabout, but I was
    pretty certain it should be left. I trusted my judgement and after a
    few miles it became clear that I had been correct. It occurred to me
    that if the field had followed the route sheet I would now be the first
    rider in spite of my trundly pace.

    About 20 miles further on there was a mobile control. The rider who had
    been changing his tube was just leaving it as I arrived. It turned out
    he had followed the route sheet at the roundabout, but being a local
    lad he knew a route that would bring him back on course, which
    explained why I hadn't seen him pass. The rest of the field had
    realised the route sheet was wrong, had stayed on course and were half
    an hour up the road. As I was munching a cake, swallowing some
    ibuprofen and chatting to the controller, his phone rang. It was the
    storming Mel who had also gone wrong at the roundabout, but not found
    his way back onto the course, and was now going home to bed.

    The rest of the ride to Woburn was straightforward, and a little knot
    of riders was still at the control when I arrived. I bought a sandwich
    and a drink and consumed them contentedly as they set off on the next
    leg through Woburn Park. About 10 minutes later I followed them only to
    stop after a couple of miles as I noticed my rear tyre was getting
    soft. I pumped it up again and decided to see how it held up rather
    than changing the tube immediately.

    Now I started to hit some severe headwind, and it was quite a hard slog
    to Offord, where there was an information control. There was one rider
    still at the control, but I let him set off alone as I again decided to
    have 10 minutes rest and a snack before once more pumping up my tyre
    and continuing.

    The next control was through St. Neots to Thurleigh. There was still a
    stiff headwind and to my surprise about a mile before reaching it I
    overtook the rider I'd met at the info control. He was clearly
    suffering in the wind and in desperate need of some food.

    Most of the field were still at the control although many of them were
    preparing to leave. The rider I'd passed clearly didn't share my casual
    attitude to being lanterne rouge as he refuelled quickly and set off
    with a small group.

    After some rather tasteless hot food I again pumped up my tyre and set
    off for the next control, which was Tesco's at Wolverton. There was one
    rider just leaving the control as I got there. After getting my stamp
    and some more food and drink I decided it was now time to change the
    tube, which I did before continuing towards the next control at Thame.

    Shortly before Long Crendon my phone rang, and I stopped to answer it.
    It was my son, Mark, who had been at an orchestra rehearsal all day,
    and on returning home had found and opened an envelope with his name on
    it. It was the result of his grade 6 violin exam. He'd got a
    distinction and naturally wanted to tell me immediately.

    Fortified by this excellent news I carried on to the control at Thame
    where the wind finally promised to be in the right direction. Indeed it
    was, though as night was falling it was losing much of its force. It
    was now a free route back to Ruislip and I briefly toyed with the idea
    of blasting back along the A40 but sensibly decided to stick to the
    quiet roads of the suggested route.

    Around Great Missenden I came to another problem in the route sheet.
    The instruction was to take the 2nd right signposted such-and-such. I
    found the turning but there was no signpost. I wanted to be sure of
    taking the correct road so I retraced to the previous turning to make
    sure I hadn't missed it, then went on the third turning to make sure
    that wasn't it either. Having established that it almost certainly was
    the right turning and it was simply a case of a missing signpost, I
    retraced to it and carried on. I was now in the Chilterns and this
    turning led to the longest, steepest hill of the randonee so I was
    quite glad when it proved to be correct.

    The rest of the ride was plain sailing, and basically retracing the
    route from the early part of the morning with what was now a gentle
    tailwind. I was the last finisher at about midnight, but still a good 2
    hours within the time limit, and I hadn't kept Liz's household up
    unreasonably late. After a sandwich and a cup of tea I toddled back to
    Twickenham for a shower and a plummet into sleep.

    With the slight diversion in the Chilterns and the ride to and from
    Ruislip I had ridden 355k in all. I'd taken it very easy, had no
    serious problems, received excellent news from home, my cough had not
    got worse, and my knee was only slightly sore. All in all a very
    pleasant day.

    --
    Dave...

  7. dkahn400 said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

  8. MartinM said:


    dkahn400 said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    Yes. Tandemming.

    Tim

  9. MartinM said:

    IOW the week after, any takers?

    Yep. Will probably be on the Trice and starting in Cowes with daughter
    and young son
    Likely to be camping near the Travellers Joy [1] at Northwood.

    [1] regular IOW Pub of the Year with 8 refreshing beers to finish on
    after the ride :-))

    John B

  10. Tim Hall said:

    On 11 Apr 2005 12:23:52 -0700, "MartinM" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    dkahn400 said:

    Dave Larrington wrote:

    > Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    > takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    > which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    Yes. Tandemming.

    Which ferry are you getting? I'm going for the 0900 Pompey car ferry
    (not risking having my wheels eaten on Ryde pier again)

  11. Tim Hall said:

    On 11 Apr 2005 12:23:52 -0700, "MartinM" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    dkahn400 said:

    Dave Larrington wrote:

    > Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    > takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    > which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    Yes. Tandemming.

    Which ferry are you getting? I'm aiming for the 0900 car ferry from
    Pompey; not risking having my wheels eaten on Ryde pier again.

  12. MartinM said:

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    The weekend of 30th? I can't see it in the AUK calendar. In any case
    I'm down for Porkers on 23rd and Severn Across on 30th.

    --
    Dave...

  13. MartinM said:
    dkahn400 said:
    Dave Larrington said:

    Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    which should be fun, wind permitting...

    Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    Squints. Major conservatory / Shedde[1] clearance on Sat & Sun, ECCA
    Festival on the Monday.

    1 - note to visiting Sheddi; this because I am having a New! IMPROVED!!
    Supersize Shedde molished.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/> A
    complimentary biroT is /not/ to be sniffed at.

  14. Dave Larrington said:

    1 - note to visiting Sheddi; this because I am having a New!


    IMPROVED!!

    Quoted message said:

    Supersize Shedde molished.

    shouldn't that be :

    Note to vising Sheddi;
    dafeawfadvnbvdnvkwfwvwdf wdfdfdf5666565 ;-) $££^%$&^%$%$?
    or something

  15. dkahn400 said:
    MartinM said:

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    The weekend of 30th? I can't see it in the AUK calendar.


    www.cycleisland.co.uk
    not an AUK ride

  16. dkahn400 said:
    MartinM said:

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    The weekend of 30th? I can't see it in the AUK calendar. In any case
    I'm down for Porkers on 23rd and Severn Across on 30th.

    www.cycleisland.co.uk

    It's not; it is organised by IOW Wayfarer CTC and not run by AUK rules,
    a great ride though. The only IOW AUK ride I am aware of is the
    Onshore/Offshore in September which does 100k on the island and 100
    round the New Forest, 3 URCers inc myself did it last year the first
    time it ran. Hard but very good.

    Severn Across; best word to describe that ride in interesting ;-)

  17. MartinM said:


    dkahn400 said:
    MartinM said:

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    The weekend of 30th? I can't see it in the AUK calendar.


    www.cycleisland.co.uk
    not an AUK ride

    And *much* more relaxed and enjoyable ;-)

    John B

  18. davek said:
    MartinM said:

    For different values of the word "fun"

    For me, the "fun" is the satisfaction of having completed a difficult

    Quoted message said:

    ride...

    Quoted message said:

    Never again, 2AAA points on a 300k requires a lot of pain. Scenery


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nice though.

    I was just discussing this morning with a club colleague (who this


    year

    Quoted message said:

    has done both the Invicta Grimpeur and Mad Jack's as training for the

    Quoted message said:

    Etape) how the AAA formula seems designed to make it exponentially
    harder to get points on longer rides, ie a 300k ride with 1 AAA point

    Quoted message said:

    has more than 3 times as much climbing as a 100k with 1 AAA point. Or

    Quoted message said:

    something like that.

    Well done for living to tell the tale, though.

    I think at least 1/2 a point is on this very hill: to anyone feeling
    foolhardy enough to try next year ;-)

    http://www.imagehosting.us/imagehosting/showimg.jpg/?id=382923

    (that's me in the yellow)

  19. MartinM said:


    Tim Hall said:

    On 11 Apr 2005 12:23:52 -0700, "MartinM" <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    dkahn400 wrote:
    > Dave Larrington wrote:
    >
    > > Oh, too late. Shame. FWIW, next Sunday's 200 (Witham Wander)
    > > takes in much of the downwind leg of the Summertime Wossname,
    > > which should be fun, wind permitting...
    >
    > Next Sunday? Isn't it the Sunday after next?

    'tis indeed the 24th; would love to join you but I shall be
    underground. IOW the week after, any takers?

    Yes. Tandemming.

    Which ferry are you getting? I'm aiming for the 0900 car ferry from
    Pompey; not risking having my wheels eaten on Ryde pier again.

    Saturday morning, staying the weekend somewhere near Ryde, holiday
    village near the Wishing Well pub. Returning Monday morning.

    Tim

  20. Dave Larrington said:


    1 - note to visiting Sheddi; this because I am having a New! IMPROVED!!
    Supersize Shedde molished.

    H! TFD!

    Tim

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