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  1. There is perhaps nobody in the history of sports so much misunderstood than
    Pierre de Coubertin. His name has been used for many years to exclude
    professionals from the Olympic Games. In fact, he never had any objection to
    paying sportsmen for their performances. On the other hand, he was dead
    against something else, and that was training. For sure, he accepted that an
    athlete would train a few hours a week to learn some of the basic skills of
    his sport. But according to him training for several hours a day was
    cheating. The philosophy behind this opinion was simple: people should
    compete with each other in their "natural" state. Excessive training was
    "unnatural" and would give an athlete an unfair advantage over his
    competitors. Doctors claimed that it was detrimental to their health.
    Coubertin was not the only adherant to this philosophy. On the contrary, the
    idea that it was morally unacceptable that athletes should enhance their
    performances in such an artificial way was quite common.For instance, when
    Pierre Giffard organized Paris-Brest-Paris in 1891 he hoped that the
    extraordinary conditions of the race (1100 km) would neutralize the
    differences between "natural" and "trained" athletes (he was wrong, of
    course). Coubertin would have loved to set strict rules for training in the
    charter of the Olympic Games, but had to admit there were too much pratical
    problems. How was it possible to pick out cheaters? Supervising athletes day
    and night? Of course, nobody even thought of blood- or urine-tests. Even if
    they had been effective they would have been considered contrary of the
    human dignity of the athletes.
    Gradually the objections against training disappeared. And now, after
    hundred years, we can only smile of the ideas of Coubertin, Giffard and so
    many others.Not only because they have become completely obsolete, but alos
    because they were completely harmless. Unfortunately, the philosophy of the
    "natural" athlete with all its consequences hasn't disappeared at all. On
    the contrary, the sports world - and especially the cycling world - seems to
    be obsessed with it. The only difference is that the objections are not
    anymore to training, but to other "performance-enhancing" means.
    I'm quite sure that in fifty years these ideas will have become as
    obsolete as those of Coubertin. But I'm not so certain that people will
    smile the way we do now. Because contrary to hundred years ago, they are
    wrecking careers, spoiling lives, discrediting the sports and doing a lot of
    other harm.

    Benjo

  2. benjo maso schreef..........

    BRAVO !!!!

  3. benjo maso said:

    There is perhaps nobody in the history of sports so much misunderstood than
    Pierre de Coubertin. His name has been used for many years to exclude
    professionals from the Olympic Games. In fact, he never had any objection to
    paying sportsmen for their performances. On the other hand, he was dead
    against something else, and that was training. For sure, he accepted that an
    athlete would train a few hours a week to learn some of the basic skills of
    his sport. But according to him training for several hours a day was
    cheating. The philosophy behind this opinion was simple: people should
    compete with each other in their "natural" state. Excessive training was
    "unnatural" and would give an athlete an unfair advantage over his
    competitors. Doctors claimed that it was detrimental to their health.
    Coubertin was not the only adherant to this philosophy. On the contrary, the
    idea that it was morally unacceptable that athletes should enhance their
    performances in such an artificial way was quite common.For instance, when
    Pierre Giffard organized Paris-Brest-Paris in 1891 he hoped that the
    extraordinary conditions of the race (1100 km) would neutralize the
    differences between "natural" and "trained" athletes (he was wrong, of
    course). Coubertin would have loved to set strict rules for training in the
    charter of the Olympic Games, but had to admit there were too much pratical
    problems. How was it possible to pick out cheaters? Supervising athletes day
    and night? Of course, nobody even thought of blood- or urine-tests. Even if
    they had been effective they would have been considered contrary of the
    human dignity of the athletes.
    Gradually the objections against training disappeared. And now, after
    hundred years, we can only smile of the ideas of Coubertin, Giffard and so
    many others.Not only because they have become completely obsolete, but alos
    because they were completely harmless. Unfortunately, the philosophy of the
    "natural" athlete with all its consequences hasn't disappeared at all. On
    the contrary, the sports world - and especially the cycling world - seems to
    be obsessed with it. The only difference is that the objections are not
    anymore to training, but to other "performance-enhancing" means.
    I'm quite sure that in fifty years these ideas will have become as
    obsolete as those of Coubertin. But I'm not so certain that people will
    smile the way we do now. Because contrary to hundred years ago, they are
    wrecking careers, spoiling lives, discrediting the sports and doing a lot of
    other harm.

    Benjo

    Great stuff!

    Happy New Year!

    Steve

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    Quoted message said:

    There is perhaps nobody in the history of sports so much misunderstood


    than

    Quoted message said:

    Pierre de Coubertin. His name has been used for many years to exclude
    professionals from the Olympic Games. In fact, he never had any objection


    to

    Quoted message said:

    paying sportsmen for their performances. On the other hand, he was dead
    against something else, and that was training. For sure, he accepted that


    an

    Quoted message said:

    athlete would train a few hours a week to learn some of the basic skills


    of

    Quoted message said:

    his sport. But according to him training for several hours a day was
    cheating. The philosophy behind this opinion was simple: people should
    compete with each other in their "natural" state. Excessive training was
    "unnatural" and would give an athlete an unfair advantage over his
    competitors. Doctors claimed that it was detrimental to their health.
    Coubertin was not the only adherant to this philosophy. On the contrary,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    idea that it was morally unacceptable that athletes should enhance their
    performances in such an artificial way was quite common.For instance, when
    Pierre Giffard organized Paris-Brest-Paris in 1891 he hoped that the
    extraordinary conditions of the race (1100 km) would neutralize the
    differences between "natural" and "trained" athletes (he was wrong, of
    course). Coubertin would have loved to set strict rules for training in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    charter of the Olympic Games, but had to admit there were too much


    pratical

    Quoted message said:

    problems. How was it possible to pick out cheaters? Supervising athletes


    day

    Quoted message said:

    and night? Of course, nobody even thought of blood- or urine-tests. Even


    if

    Quoted message said:

    they had been effective they would have been considered contrary of the
    human dignity of the athletes.
    Gradually the objections against training disappeared. And now, after
    hundred years, we can only smile of the ideas of Coubertin, Giffard and so
    many others.Not only because they have become completely obsolete, but


    alos

    Quoted message said:

    because they were completely harmless. Unfortunately, the philosophy of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    "natural" athlete with all its consequences hasn't disappeared at all. On
    the contrary, the sports world - and especially the cycling world - seems


    to

    Quoted message said:

    be obsessed with it. The only difference is that the objections are not
    anymore to training, but to other "performance-enhancing" means.
    I'm quite sure that in fifty years these ideas will have become as
    obsolete as those of Coubertin. But I'm not so certain that people will
    smile the way we do now. Because contrary to hundred years ago, they are
    wrecking careers, spoiling lives, discrediting the sports and doing a lot


    of

    Quoted message said:

    other harm.

    Benjo

    Nice piece! I can't speculate on the next 50 years, and I will only be
    around another 30 or 40 max, so it doesn't matter that much to me and I
    don't think I will be that interested in cycling aftern the next 20, and its
    not likely to change too much by then hopefully. I like it the way it is now
    for ladies. They haven't nearly as many of the same problems as the men and
    I don't see it getting better and bigger then the mens events anytime soon.
    Less money, less drug use, makes for cleaner competition so you can really
    tell who the real iron women of cycling are, instead of the flares that
    shoot out brightly with the men and die suddenly.

    B-

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