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Peripheral Neuropathy Recurrence

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  1. Just thought you might like to know that Alpha Lipoc Acid
    will repair nuerological damages to those who are sufferig
    from diabetes. It is proven. Their are people who have
    restored feelings and sight. And yes, there will be some
    replies that tell you this is BS. It is not. I am one of
    those people. However, you should take responsibilty for
    your health and condition and research it yourself. Just
    use yur search box! Take an active part in your healing
    and explore options with your doctor or go look for one
    that respects you as a person with a brain and will
    explore all options.

  2. "Lanakila" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Just thought you might like to know that Alpha Lipoc Acid
    will repair nuerological damages to those who are sufferig
    from diabetes. It is proven. Their are people who have
    restored feelings and sight. And yes, there will be some
    replies that tell you this is BS. It is not. I am one of
    those people. However, you should take responsibilty for
    your health and condition and research it yourself. Just
    use yur search box! Take an active part in your healing
    and explore options with your doctor or go look for one
    that respects you as a person with a brain and will
    explore all options.

    I tried it and it didn't repair my neuropathy.

    --
    Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jbove

  3. x-no-archive: yes

    Quoted message said:

    Just thought you might like to know that Alpha Lipoc Acid
    will repair nuerological damages to those who are sufferig
    from diabetes. It is proven. Their are people who have
    restored feelings and sight. And yes, there will be some
    replies that tell you this is BS. It is not.

    I had excellent results with reversal of severe PN by low
    carbing and taking 600mg per day of time released alpha
    lipoic acid daily. Non timed release has a short half life
    and has to be taken to often daily for me to remember it. I
    had little to no relief from the non timed release stuff.

    Susan

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    Subject: Re: Peripheral Neuropathy Recurrence
    From: [email hidden] (Susan )
    Date: 5/17/2004 7:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    x-no-archive: yes

    Quoted message said:

    Just thought you might like to know that Alpha Lipoc Acid
    will repair nuerological damages to those who are sufferig
    from diabetes. It is proven. Their are people who have
    restored feelings and sight. And yes, there will be some
    replies that tell you this is BS. It is not.

    I had excellent results with reversal of severe PN by low
    carbing and taking 600mg per day of time released alpha
    lipoic acid daily. Non timed release has a short half life
    and has to be taken to often daily for me to remember it. I
    had little to no relief from the non timed release stuff.

    Susan

    Rutin .. ANOTHER iron binder .. seems to be very good .. too
    ..

    Minerva Cardioangiol. 2004 Feb;52(1):43-8. Related
    Articles, Links

    [Effectiveness of Troxerutin in association with Pycnogenol
    in the pharmacological treatment of venous insufficiency]

    [Article in Italian]

    Riccioni C, Sarcinella R, Izzo A, Palermo G, Liguori M.

    Unita Operativa Complessa di Angiologia, Ospedale Nuovo
    Regina Margherita, Roma. [email hidden]

    AIM: The purpose of our study was to assess the different
    effectiveness of Troxerutin in association with Pycnogenol
    compared to the effects obtainable with the same
    pharmacological principle in monotherapy in patients
    suffering from venous insufficiency. METHODS: Seventy
    patients with venous insufficiency of the lower extremities
    at the first stages of the CEAP classification (Cs1,3; Es;
    As 1; invalidity score 2, clinical score 1-2) were selected
    and subdivided into 2 groups: one of 50 and one of 20. All
    patients reported the following symptoms either associated
    or in isolation: heaviness, cramps, pruritus and pain at
    palpation. Evaluation of the degree of venous insufficiency
    was carried out by means of echo-Doppler at recruitment. The
    1st group received Troxerutin (470 mg) associated with
    Pycnogenol (20 mg) in a dose of 1 g/day per os for 60 days;
    the 2nd group Troxerutin alone (300 mg) in a dose of 2
    tablets twice a day per os for 60 days. Controls were set up
    at 30 and 60 days from the start of treatment and after a
    period of 3 months from the end of treatment to assess the
    effects on the symptomatology over time. The effectiveness
    of the drugs on symptomatology reported by both groups was
    assessed by means of an analysis of the qualitative
    variation of the symptoms using the score-scales method:
    3=severe; 2=moderate; 1=slight; 0=absent and this variation
    was expressed as a percentage decrease and analysed using
    Student's test. RESULTS: The results of our study after 30
    days of treatment highlighted a clinical improvement in all
    patients with the disappearance of symptoms (score from 3 to
    1) in 50% of patients in the 1st group and in 35% in the 2nd
    with a peak of 96% in patients of the 1st group and 80% in
    the 2nd at the end of treatment (60 days). This result held
    stable in the course of follow-up for 96% of patients in the
    1st group (p<0.001) and for 50% of those in the 2nd group
    (p<0.005). CONCLUSION: Comparison between the 2 groups
    showed that the group which received Troxerutin associated
    with Pycnogenol reported greater therapeutic effectiveness
    than the control group as regards both the rapidity of
    disappearance of the symptoms and as regards maintenance of
    the cure obtained.

    PMID: 14765037 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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  5. Julie Bove said:

    "Lanakila" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Just thought you might like to know that Alpha Lipoc Acid
    will repair nuerological damages to those who are sufferig
    from diabetes. It is proven. Their are people who have
    restored feelings and sight. And yes, there will be some
    replies that tell you this is BS. It is not. I am one of
    those people. However, you should take responsibilty for
    your health and condition and research it yourself. Just
    use yur search box! Take an active part in your healing
    and explore options with your doctor or go look for one
    that respects you as a person with a brain and will
    explore all options.

    I tried it and it didn't repair my neuropathy.

    Nor I. I got no apparent response at all, and my hba1c was
    4.7% to 5.2% throughout the time frame that I took the
    ALA/EPO combo.

    I combined 600 mg lipoic acid with 2-4 grams of primrose
    oil each day for most of the past 18 months. I suspect it's
    time to give up on hopes for nerve regrowth and look for
    them only to moderate my BG, which Dr. Bernstein claims
    they will do.

    Bernstein believes enough in the effectiveness of the
    combination (for BG control only) that he started taking
    them himself four years before the second edition of his
    diabetes book came out. (He indicated that they let him cut
    his insulin by 33%.)

    ...

    I just checked Bernstein's book, and he recommends 2 300 mg
    tablets of ALA (the sustained release variety, made by
    Jarrow Formulas, sold by Trotta's Pharmacy), and two 500 mg
    tablets of EPO, to be taken THREE times a day. That's a
    total of 1800 mg of ALA and 3000 mg of EPO.

    What the heck. I'll triple my ALA dose and spread them out
    over three meals to see if that helps. Thanks for provoking
    me into checking the proper ratio between the two pills!

    Have I mentioned how much I respect Bernstein's book on
    managing diabetes? Then let me do so again. If you don't
    want diabetes to kill you, buy this book:

    diabetes-normalsugars.comdiabetes-normalsugars.com

    amazon.comamazon.com
    /0316099066/ref=lpr_g_1/002-0764787-5448828?v=glance&s=books

    Randy

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