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  1. Do not pretend to me or anyone I have passed healing ability
    to (or I suggest other healers as well) that you are sick,
    including the case where you were previously sick, were
    healed, and are still saying you are sick. I bet
    traditional healers would advise that as well,
    and doctors not wanting overdoses and so on.

    This can result in overcompensation going beyond the healed
    state to the inverse of the illness which quite often
    is another illness, for example the inverse of mania
    that may lead to jumping off a building thinking you
    can fly is suicidal depression that could lead to suicide
    and the inverse of cancer is very rapid aging.

    Any such who have faked such to me or someone I have
    passed healing ability to and had healing applied
    now have retroactively such overcompensation and
    can ask the healer in question for a fix after
    admitting the fakery (not another healer with similar
    ability, and those with lifelong healing or
    strong healing ability not belonging or granted by
    me mau not be able to cure all such conditions without
    access to my batch healing components which they
    would not in this case unless they are the initial
    healer who is apologized to for the fakery and
    requested a fix of the overhealing of).

    The same applies to musical boosting and those
    who have faked problems to obtain musical boosts
    from me, and that does not include Marcel Levandrier,
    Blair Harvey, George Thorogood or Bif Naked,
    may now have an overcompensation effect. This
    would include cases where someone faked to
    test me once and found it worked and then
    faked to supposedly test me again when they
    knew it worked, in the cases after the first
    one. Also I said it would not matter in the
    case where someone faked to test me and meant
    to leave that in the first such instance but
    have been overridden so it applies even in the
    first such instance. It also applies to those
    boosted by any I passed musical boosting ability
    to, including also any who were boosted and
    said they were not to the booster (this also
    aplies to my boostings but I don't remember such;
    also yes even those who just said they were not
    and did not fake problems get overcompensation
    and that applies to healing as well)
    of other or others, and any such could admit the
    fakery to the booster concerned including if
    it was me and request a fix.

    So some who had removal of healing or musical boosting
    now have overcompensation the other way instead.

    For example someone faking singing out of tune in
    one frequency shift direction would have their
    natural tuning that was once on shifted out of
    tune in the other direction.

    So I advise no such fakery in future.

    This also applies to global tuneups , I I fix or
    have fixed major problems that must be admitted
    to me, I need good data, or else there could
    be much worse overcompensation effects, shifts
    beyond the desired neutral or norm or healed
    state or tuned state into the opposite of the
    supposed state reported to me that is not true
    including if it is reported to me that all is
    as it was ten years ago or something and it is
    not.

    Also those in shuman who have gotten at least one word
    from me directly, and/or by translation, summary, excerpt,
    relay, and/or multirelay, and including translation
    within English, so substituting another English term
    for one or more of my words, and understood such
    are 6 billion (that would include any who have overheard
    and understood). If those who have not understood
    are added (with average age of 19 months, and some still
    in the womb so with negative age) it is 6.4 billion
    (including fetuses beyond 2 lunar months after conception),
    all of shuman, other than me (though I have read and
    heard my own words too of course). Thus all in shuman
    have a commuincation link with me. Also my initial
    impact area is the planet and near space including the
    space station. Similarly the Baha'u'llah's initial
    impact area was Europe and North America and his group
    similar to my 6.4 billion was 62% of the population
    of Europe and North America. Thus I suspect that
    Michael Rochester gave me the wrong bio dates for
    the Baha'u'llah since otherwise his cycles do not
    line up with the sunspot cycle the way mine have.
    Also the initial impact area of Jesus was approximately
    what is now Israel, Palestine, Syria, Jordan and Italy
    and the initial impact area of Mohammed was the Middle East,
    North Africa, and southern Europe. Of course their
    ideas have spread further since, as I expect some of
    mine, including the four orientation theory, to
    eventually spread interstellar, as theirs may as well.

    Jesus's equivalent to the four orientation theory
    was that the sperm and ovum combine to form an embryo.

    Mohammed's equivalent to the four orientation theory
    was inorganic chemical reactions, that two or more
    chemicals can combine to form one or more others.

    Now I find that hard to believe since surely their
    names would still be attached to such discoveries
    by their supposed followers and by those knowledgeable
    in the history of science, but that is what I
    have divined. (I say supposed since they are
    not following too well if they don't give credit
    to the one they say they are following for such
    major scientific discoveries.)

    But anyway, don't fake being sick to me or
    other healers, don't fake having musical
    problems to me or other musical boosters,
    and don't misreport the state of world affairs
    to me and others if you don't want overcompensation
    (or overdose if you will) type problems.

    All lovegagents other that me if I am one and
    other than me if I am not one should now me
    able to meditate somehow and see what stuff I
    have gotten in. However they must not attempt
    to remove it without coming up with something
    better or they will lose their loveagent status
    at least temporarily. Spend a day trying to
    come up with something better, perhaps. Also
    it is possible to focus on an idea that is in
    and see who originated the idea (maybe you) and
    who, maybe long ago, had the first idea that
    was nearly the same (so say like 0.999 instead of 1.0),
    and who of past male and female figures you
    revere had the same or very similar idea. You can
    also think of what of your own ideas or nearly the
    same are in and what you were the originator of
    (first to think of that idea). You can also
    think of a past figure, e.g. Magdalene , and
    see what of her ideas when she was alive are
    in in exact or very near form. You can also
    if you have a deity or deities, think of that
    deity or one of the deites and see what of
    their ideas, which may include prayer ideas
    directed by you to them in the past, are in
    in exact or very near form.

    A lovegagent can also consult for a non-loveagent
    to see what of the non-loveagent's ideas or
    those of a deity of the non-loveagent or
    past figure revered by the non-loveagnet are in
    (and may have been in all along and might not
    have been adjusted for global or modern times
    or anything, even).

    All that is related to the popthroughs/etc stuff
    I have discussed before, and my attempts to get
    other people's ideas considered. So e.g. ideas
    on a past Jewish figure may affect all worldwide
    Jews, Christians, Muslims and Baha'i even if before
    only those in that figure's initial impact area
    were considered (but those now in that initial
    impact area and/or descended from such are also
    covered). Similarly ideas of a past Irish
    figure may affect all of Irish descent worldwide
    and more. But sometimes such ideas are
    held by many figures.

    Thus my contribution is really just a globalization
    and an addition of a a good bit of stuff including
    the four orientation theory and other scientific
    ideas so far which I intend to build on. My messages
    I bet show some similarity to those of past figures
    similar to me but there may be an added element
    even there based on my broader knowledge of
    the world and scientific research than theirs,
    and influenced by them.

    Last night on alt.music.s-mclachlan someone with the
    fake name "me" posted and I divined it was Sarah McLachlan
    and laughed and replied and that counts as communication
    between us after the old link formed so the old link
    is now a current link (which I noted after I got an
    unusual low settled/not-upwards buzz). (Before the old link
    formedI last night divined we communicated on the FTE list
    and by e-mail with her under the name Gina Musil
    so I will have to look back at what I saved of
    Gina Musil's writing after I send off my thesis-related
    conference abstract, though I am considering quitting my
    Ph.D. and becoming a Wreck Beach bum maybe :-) .)

    Can Sarah play Musils in the Koerner? :-)

    David
    http://www.nfld.com/~dalton

  2. David Dalton said:

    Do not pretend to me or anyone I have passed healing ability
    to (or I suggest other healers as well) that you are sick,
    including the case where you were previously sick, were
    healed, and are still saying you are sick. I bet
    traditional healers would advise that as well,
    and doctors not wanting overdoses and so on.

    This can result in overcompensation going beyond the healed
    state to the inverse of the illness

    I said no induction of illness by those I passed the ability
    to (but that does not apply to me since I am not passing
    to myself) but there is an exception, and it is retroactive,
    in this case where induction is not intended unless to
    teach a lesson to someone faking illness [and otherwise
    there is honest belief there is illness and actual
    healing of that supposed illness is attempted resulting
    in the inverse of the illness (which is not health
    but another illness, health is the neutral/normal state
    and the inverse goes beyond that to another illness
    state)]. I do not know if healers other than me
    can detect when someone is faking illness (and perhaps
    I could not until recently and may lose said ability
    to detect fakery) or if they too would administer
    an inverse to the illness to teach the person a
    lesson, until apologized to by the person for the
    fakery and requested to fix it. But some may not
    be able or have been able to detect it and may have
    tried to apply healing and that may, including
    retroactively, result in such overcompensation
    effects. Also those who have been healed and
    said they were not healed to the healer and/or other(s)
    also fall into such
    category of getting overcompensation and may
    have anyway if the one they said they were not
    healed to tried to repeat the healing, or double
    the dose so to speak.

    Perhaps that will result in some honest data soon,
    including to me. Da ta? (tea on Father's Day)

    David

  3. David Dalton said:

    I said no induction of illness by those I passed the ability
    to (but that does not apply to me since I am not passing
    to myself) but there is an exception, and it is retroactive,
    in this case where induction is not intended unless to
    teach a lesson to someone faking illness

    In that case induction of the faked illness is also
    allowable (if fakery is detected, and unless it
    is truly fakery it won't work) instead of the
    inverse (see saw the other way, beyond healthy
    balance) of the illness but I have not attempted
    such myself.

    David

  4. David Dalton said:
    David Dalton said:

    I said no induction of illness by those I passed the ability
    to (but that does not apply to me since I am not passing
    to myself) but there is an exception, and it is retroactive,
    in this case where induction is not intended unless to
    teach a lesson to someone faking illness

    In that case induction of the faked illness is also
    allowable (if fakery is detected, and unless it
    is truly fakery it won't work) instead of the
    inverse (see saw the other way, beyond healthy
    balance) of the illness but I have not attempted
    such myself.

    Again such could be fixed by the originally faker
    apologizing to the original healer (the one faked to
    who consciously induces the faked illness or
    consciously or inadvertently in attempting to
    heal the faked illness induces the inverse illness)
    for the fakery
    and requesting a fix, as could the overcompensation
    stuff, but not, say if the original healer is
    one with ability and/or batch healing passed on by
    me, by anyone else with such ability or batch
    healing passed on by me, but perhaps by other means
    of course.

    I could undo it though but might detect fakery and/or
    that another healer needs an apology and in the
    case of future healing by myself if I detect I
    am owed an apology I will not apply the healing
    until I get such apology but if I detect fakery
    of illness I may or may not induce the illness
    or the inverse illness (often just as bad or
    worse) from overhealing to teach the person
    a lesson until I get an apology (stating
    explicitly there has been such fakery).

    That is all perfectly reasonable I think. Don't fake illness
    to a healer, any healer would tell you that.

    David

  5. David Dalton said:
    David Dalton said:
    David Dalton said:

    I said no induction of illness by those I passed the ability
    to (but that does not apply to me since I am not passing
    to myself) but there is an exception, and it is retroactive,
    in this case where induction is not intended unless to
    teach a lesson to someone faking illness

    In that case induction of the faked illness is also
    allowable (if fakery is detected, and unless it
    is truly fakery it won't work) instead of the
    inverse (see saw the other way, beyond healthy
    balance) of the illness but I have not attempted
    such myself.

    Again such could be fixed by the originally faker
    apologizing to the original healer (the one faked to
    who consciously induces the faked illness or
    consciously or inadvertently in attempting to
    heal the faked illness induces the inverse illness)
    for the fakery
    and requesting a fix, as could the overcompensation
    stuff, but not, say if the original healer is
    one with ability and/or batch healing passed on by
    me, by anyone else with

    "by" is clearer than "with" there since of course some
    such have had strong healing or healing special ability
    from 2 lunar months after their conception and/or
    other means such as so-called modern medicine
    (pharmaceuticals, etc.)

    Quoted message said:

    such ability or batch
    healing passed on by me, but perhaps by other means
    of course.

    I could undo it though but might detect fakery and/or
    that another healer needs an apology and in the
    case of future healing by myself if I detect I
    am owed an apology I will not apply the healing
    until I get such apology but if I detect fakery
    of illness I may or may not induce the illness
    or the inverse illness (often just as bad or
    worse) from overhealing to teach the person
    a lesson until I get an apology (stating
    explicitly there has been such fakery).

    In the cases where the original healer did the healing
    or attempted healing or unintentional overcompensation
    with ability and/or batch healing pass on me at least
    to a great degree and has had that removed by me for
    being against me or for me but saying he or she is
    against me to me and/or other(s), at least temporarily,
    the original healer will be unable to fix the problem.
    But still the patient (or supposed patient or one who
    told the healer he or she was sick or one who faked
    such illness and word reached the healer even thousands
    of miles away and he or she felt obligated to help,
    as some healers do even if not asked especially when
    communication with the patient is difficult or the
    patient is supposedly unfriendly to mystical healing
    method) should request the original healer to fix
    the problem and if that original healer has been
    removed from and cannot then that original healer could
    get it fixed by asking a loveagent to fix it (and
    since I do not know if I am a loveagent, even if I am
    not a loveagent, the original healer could also
    ask me to fix it).

    Quoted message said:

    That is all perfectly reasonable I think. Don't fake illness
    to a healer, any healer would tell you that.

    Now most Wiccans will not try to heal someone without
    a request but this may apply to them too since some
    supposed patients may have faked an illness and
    asked for healing either to get a supposed boost
    or to then say, no it didn't work, I am still
    sick, you have no healing ability, perhaps.

    However I am not Wiccan, and I and many other healers
    I am sure feel obligated to help whenever they know
    of someone who is sick, especially near and/or
    communicating with them. When the Village Shopping
    centre girl with strong healing ability (with mental
    health healing component as good as Tanita Tikaram's
    mental health healing ability) saw me a teeny bit
    absent-minded and unsteady she steadied me a lot
    (though some might argue that might be just
    automatically by my being in her presence but
    I don't think so). When I saw a Down's Syndrome
    child in the paper I tried to heal her, and the same
    for other remote sick people such as Stephen Hawking
    and Pope John Paul II and others as I have noted.
    And I don't plan to change that behaviour so don't
    fake sickness and if you were sick and are better
    and are famous it is a good idea to let the media
    know you are better, or even me if I have healed you.

    I could say well I'll not heal unless I'm asked
    but I'd rather people not fake being sick so
    will leave it at that, and I am sure some
    other healers would agree with that though
    maybe not some Wiccans but tough titty.

    David

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