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  1. http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5279377.html

    Suspected terrorists still can buy guns

    Eric Lichtblau,  New York Times
    March 8, 2005

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Dozens of terrorist suspects on federal watch lists
    were
    allowed to buy firearms legally in the United States last year,
    according to
    a congressional investigation that points up major vulnerabilities in
    federal gun laws.
    People suspected of being members of terrorist groups are not
    automatically
    barred from legally buying a gun, and the new investigation, conducted
    by
    congressional officials at the Government Accountability Office (GAO),
    indicated that people with clear links to terrorist groups had taken
    advantage of this gap on a regular basis.
    Since Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials have voiced increasing
    concern about the prospect of having a terrorist walk into a gun shop,
    legally buying an assault rifle or other type of weapon.
    The GAO study offers the first full-scale examination of the possible
    dangers posed by gaps in the law, congressional officials said, and it
    concludes that the FBI could do a better job of matching gun background
    checks against lists of suspected terrorists.
    At least 44 times between February and June 2004, people regarded by the
    FBI
    as known or suspected members of terrorist groups sought permission to
    buy
    or carry guns, the GAO found.
    In all but nine cases, the FBI or state authorities who handled the
    requests
    allowed the gun applications to proceed because a check of the would-be
    buyer found no automatic disqualification, like being a felon, an
    illegal
    immigrant or a person deemed "mentally defective," the report found.
    In the four months after the formal study ended, authorities received
    another 14 gun applications from terror suspects, and all but two of
    those
    were cleared to proceed, the investigation found. In all, officials
    approved
    47 of 58 gun applications from terror suspects over a nine-month period
    last
    year, the GAO found.
    The gun buyers came up as positive matches on a classified internal FBI
    watch list that includes thousands of high-risk terrorist suspects, many
    of
    them being monitored, trailed or sought for questioning as part of
    continuing terrorism investigations, officials said.
    GAO investigators were not given access to the identities or histories
    of
    the gun buyers because of the sensitivity of those terrorism
    investigations.
    The report is to be released today; an advance copy was provided to The
    New
    York Times.
    Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., who requested the GAO study, plans to
    introduce legislation to address the problem in part by requiring
    federal
    officials to keep records of gun purchases by terror suspects for a
    minimum
    of 10 years.
    Such records must now be destroyed within 24 hours as a result of a
    change
    ordered by Congress last year, but Lautenberg maintains that the new
    policy
    has hindered terrorism investigations by eliminating the paper trail on
    gun
    purchases.
    "Destroying these records in 24 hours is senseless and will only help
    terrorists cover their tracks," Lautenberg said Monday. "It's an absurd
    policy."
    Lautenberg blamed the problem on what he called the Bush
    administration's
    "twisted allegiances" to the National Rifle Association.
    The NRA and gun rights supporters in Congress have fought --
    successfully,
    for the most part -- to limit the use of the FBI's national
    gun-purchasing
    database in West Virginia as a tool for law enforcement investigators,
    saying the database would amount to an illegal registry of gun owners
    nationwide.
    The legal debate over how gun records are used became particularly
    contentious months after the Sept. 11 attacks, when it was disclosed
    that
    the Justice Department and then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, a strong
    supporter of the Second Amendment, had blocked the FBI from using the
    gun-purchasing records to match against about 1,200 suspects who were
    detained as part of the investigation.
    Ashcroft maintained that using the gun records in a criminal
    investigation
    would have violated the congressional law that created the system for
    instant background gun checks, but Justice Department lawyers who
    reviewed
    the issue said they saw no such prohibition.
    In response to the GAO report, Lautenberg also plans to ask Attorney
    General
    Alberto Gonzales, Ashcroft's successor, to assess whether people on the
    FBI's terror watch list should be automatically banned from buying guns.
    Such a policy would require a change in federal law, since being a
    member of
    a terrorist group is not a banned category.
    FBI officials acknowledge shortcomings in the current approach to using
    gun-
    purchasing records in terror cases, but they say they are somewhat
    hamstrung
    by gun-purchasing laws as established by Congress and interpreted by the
    Justice Department.
    "We're in a tough position," said an FBI official who spoke on the
    condition
    of anonymity because the report has not been formally released.
    "Obviously,
    we want to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, but we also have to
    be
    mindful of privacy and civil rights concerns, and we can't do anything
    beyond what the law allows us to do."
    After initial reluctance from Ashcroft over Second Amendment concerns,
    the
    Justice Department changed its policy in February 2004 to allow the FBI
    to
    do more cross-checking between gun-purchasing records and terrorist
    intelligence.
    Under the new policy, millions of gun applications are run against the
    FBI's
    internal terrorist watch list, and if there is a match, FBI field agents
    or
    other counter-terrorism personnel are to be contacted to determine
    whether
    they have any information about the terror suspect that would prohibit
    the
    pending sale from being completed.
    In some cases, the extra review allowed the FBI to block a gun purchase
    by a
    suspected terrorist that might otherwise have proceeded because of a lag
    time in putting information into the database, the GAO report said.
    The GAO report concluded that the Justice Department should clarify what
    information could and could not be shared between gun-purchasing
    administrators and terrorism investigators.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  2. Will Brink said:


    [...]

    The latest scare tactic is pretending if you don't have
    a gun you'll be mugged/raped/impressed into service in
    the military in an illegal war in Iraq.

    Oh wait, that's the oldest, too.

    --Blair
    "No yams today."

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