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  1. Stephen Nagler <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    And all of Dr. Chung's double-talk and Christ-speak will not change the fact that God knows Dr.
    Chung is committing an act of hostility in His name.

    Love him enough to forgive him, as is the way of God. Where there is love there is no hostility.

    Carol T

  2. Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    >>>>>>>>>> As though responsibility ends with that


    careless dropping of nothing of value, a penny.<<<<<<<<<

    Dear Bob, It's an analogy about the power of a prayer against a wish. A wish is like a hand wave to
    a blind man, nothing can change that.

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    Wait. Do I understand you to be saying that *only* praying for them has any validity?

    Against anything else in life, yes, that is what I am saying.

    Quoted message said:
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    >>> I'm saddened by your rejection of human warmth and familial or


    collegial affection. I'm appalled by the coldness of your position. I'm shocked at the lack of
    love and any offering of it directly.<<<<<

    You understand the love of your terms Bob, learn of God and understand the love of His terms through
    the Spirit of His Word.

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    >>>> > A prayer, which unlike a wish, comes with a very generous


    price tag. As though there's prayer and nothing else...<<<<<<<

    There isn't anything or anyone more important to you than your Saviour Bob; that's how much you will
    understand when you realised that He died an excruciating death for you, so that you can have a
    relationship with God. What does Satan give to his loyal followers?

    If I make you cross, I will gladly leave you to your thoughts, as I love you enough to know that you
    are treading near dangerous territory in your pursuit of the truth. I will pray that you can keep
    your guard against evil and let go of the demons who are using you, for you know yourself that I
    have no harm for you only love.

    There is nothing you have done or said yet that God will not forgive you for Bob, do not worry about
    this when you seek His forgiveness. Invite Jesus in and let Him sit at your tables Bob and trust
    that He will always fill them with good things.

    Carol T

  3. This thread has developed into just the type of thread that I was trying to get out of the NG! I
    give up! I suppose that I am faint hearted - THAT is on topic.

    Peter

    Peter said:

    This used to be a NG dedicated to cardiological matters. All the present back biting and general OT
    chatter is making the NG indigestable!

    Please can we agree that prayer is simply wishing backed by the prayer's personal beliefs which
    need not be of any consequence to the person prayed for? There is no need for any further debate on
    this is there?

    Also, surely members of the NG can make up their own minds about the validity of information
    offered by contributors. Thank you to the professionals who give so much of their time to
    contributing to this NG.

    Let's get back to medical matters!

    Peter

  4. Don't feed the troll !!!

    "Stephen Nagler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    (Carol T) said:

    A prayer, which unlike a wish, comes with a very generous price tag.

    ................

    I believe that prayers are appreciated by all. I know that I appreciate the fact that, for
    instance, Dr. Chung is praying for me. It is a wonderful, loving, and generous for Dr.
    Chung to do.

    But *TALKING* about praying for me on this newsgroup, which Dr. Chung *continues* to do despite my
    repeated requests that he desist, well THAT is an act of pure hostility.

    You know it.

    I know it.

    Dr. Chung knows it.

    God knows it.

    And all of Dr. Chung's double-talk and Christ-speak will not change the fact that God knows Dr.
    Chung is committing an act of hostility in His name. It is my sincere and fervent hope that Dr.
    Chung will realize that no matter where our differences may lie, it is an undeniable fact that Dr.
    Chung is committing an act of hostility in God's name, and he would be wise to stop doing so.

    smn

  5. Peter said:

    This thread has developed into just the type of thread that I was trying to get out of the NG! I
    give up! I suppose that I am faint hearted - THAT is on topic.

    Peter

    It's OK, Peter.

    These flamefests run their course.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  6. Wherever the "Atlanta Idiot" goes the flames will last forever. This has continued elsewhere with
    his existence for over six years that I am aware of. It may be longer.

    He is a troll and you are all suckers lighting his name up over 30,000 times on the internet.

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Peter said:

    This thread has developed into just the type of thread that I was trying to get out of the NG! I
    give up! I suppose that I am faint hearted - THAT is on topic.

    Peter

    It's OK, Peter.

    These flamefests run their course.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  7. Ear Rings said:

    Wherever the "Atlanta Idiot" goes the flames will last forever. This has continued elsewhere with
    his existence for over six years that I am aware of. It may be longer.

    He is a troll and you are all suckers lighting his name up over 30,000 times on the internet.

    Rings, did you get prosecuted for what Nagler claims?

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap040114.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  8. He lies about many things. This is also his history in many places with many people.

    "Mars Not M_un" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ear Rings said:

    Wherever the "Atlanta Idiot" goes the flames will last forever. This has continued elsewhere with
    his existence for over six years that I am aware of. It may be longer.

    He is a troll and you are all suckers lighting his name up over 30,000


    times

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    on the internet.

    Rings, did you get prosecuted for what Nagler claims?

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap040114.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  9. Ear Rings said:

    He lies about many things. This is also his history in many places with many people.

    Rings, did you get prosecuted for what Nagler claims?

    Yes or no.

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap040114.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  10. Mars Not M_un said:

    Rings, did you get prosecuted for what Nagler claims?

    Yes or no.

    .............

    Mu, please.

    You really are putting "Ear Rings" on the spot.

    He has been trying to protect his identity - that's why cowards like you and he use nicks.

    If Ear Rings tells the truth - if he says that he was arrested at his home front of his wife (and
    kids, I believe), if he tells you that he took the police right to the computer where from which he
    made the threats against me and my wife - even though they didn't ask to see it, and if he tells you
    that finally after a lot of difficulty with the authorities over this matter that his attorney
    finally cut a deal with the courts to avoid a trial and - if he behaved - in time clear his record,
    which had been clean up to that point ... if he tells you all that, then he walks out from behind
    that white hood of anonymity that cyberspace offers scum like you and him.

    If he denies it - well then he's a liar.

    smn

    (And THIS one, I shall cross-post.)

  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Rings, did you get prosecuted for what Nagler claims?

    Yes or no.

    Stephen Nagler said:

    Mu, please.

    You really are putting "Ear Rings" on the spot.

    Like you care.

    Quoted message said:

    He has been trying to protect his identity - that's why cowards like you and he use nicks.

    Why don't you tell us who he is then? anyone I care to know my ID knows it, Nagler.

    Just because you made a gross mistake and used your actual name, got investigated by the GA medical
    board, and nearly had your right to practice yanked, I assume you think that was oh-so-smart.

    Quoted message said:

    If Ear Rings tells the truth - if he says that he was arrested at his home front of his wife (and
    kids, I believe), if he tells you that he took the police right to the computer where from which he
    made the threats against me and my wife - even though they didn't ask to see it, and if he tells
    you that finally after a lot of difficulty with the authorities over this matter that his attorney
    finally cut a deal with the courts to avoid a trial and - if he behaved - in time clear his record,
    which had been clean up to that point ... if he tells you all that, then he walks out from behind
    that white hood of anonymity that cyberspace offers scum like you and him.

    I f you have a case for prosecuting me, go for it. No "nick" will hide my real ID and I know this,
    in a purely legal sense, much better than yo ever will. Ask Jim Horne,

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    If he denies it - well then he's a liar.

    So be it.

    You're a phony TROLL.

    Now, do you want to talk about the reasons that you TROLL Chung, Mu and Christ, because of personal
    family tragedies that you cannot live with, or shall I? The tragedies that you blame on prayer (to
    Christ) that makes yo hate Him so, that fuels your hatred of Christ?

    I won't ask too many more times, Stephen.

    Btw, thanks for keeping the Xpost intact.

    antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap040114.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  12. Mars Not M_un said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Rings, did you get prosecuted for what Nagler claims?

    Yes or no.

    Stephen Nagler said:

    Mu, please.

    You really are putting "Ear Rings" on the spot.

    Like you care.

    Of course he doesn't care. Idiot. You say the stupidest things as though they had merit.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    He has been trying to protect his identity - that's why cowards like you and he use nicks.

    Why don't you tell us who he is then?

    I'd like to know. Maybe publish it far and wide.

    Quoted message said:

    anyone I care to know my ID knows it, Nagler.

    Right. The way of all skulking cowards. Conceal yourself from the eyes you attack like the cyber-
    terrorist you've become, a person with no honor.

    Quoted message said:

    You're a phony TROLL.

    Another irony meter pegged...

    Quoted message said:

    Now, do you want to talk about the reasons that you TROLL Chung, Mu and Christ, because of
    personal family tragedies that you cannot live with, or shall I?

    How shabby. How disgustingly perfect to show your moral destitution.

    Quoted message said:

    The tragedies that you blame on prayer (to Christ) that makes yo hate Him so, that fuels your
    hatred of Christ?

    See how Mu_nshot is perfectly willing to bring real-world stuff into usenet while claiming it's all
    just froth of no consequence. The profoundest fraudulence...

    We call them The Big Three... Chung M_astic and Jesus. Tight like buddies. Everybody guess... WHich
    two of the three are liars and frauds? Take your time.

    Quoted message said:

    I won't ask too many more times, Stephen.

    Right. Notice the tone of menace. The implied threat. What a wonderful Christian. Trolls, lies doing
    it and threatens. What a man...

    Quoted message said:

    Btw, thanks for keeping the Xpost intact.

    Poor sad Mu_gly duckling.

    Pastorio

  13. If you are afraid to put your name to your posts we do not have any faith in
    your opinions.
    Be a man stand in the open if you want to fight the Doc.
    Derek.
    "Ear Rings" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Wherever the "Atlanta Idiot" goes the flames will last forever. This has continued elsewhere with
    his existence for over six years that I am aware of. It may be longer.

    He is a troll and you are all suckers lighting his name up over 30,000


    times

    Quoted message said:

    on the internet.

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter said:

    This thread has developed into just the type of thread that I was trying to get out of the NG!
    I give up! I suppose that I am faint hearted - THAT is on topic.

    Peter

    It's OK, Peter.

    These flamefests run their course.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com


  14. Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    We call them The Big Three... <<<<<<<<

    Just puzzled, who are _we_ Bob?

    Carol T

  15. Ear Rings said:

    Wherever the "Atlanta Idiot" goes the flames will last forever.

    Rest assured that he will die. Only those who know Christ will have life eternal.

    Quoted message said:

    This has continued elsewhere with his existence for over six years that I am aware of. It may
    be longer.

    Six years is hardly forever.

    Quoted message said:


    He is a troll and you are all suckers lighting his name up over 30,000 times on the internet.

    This is Usenet. Trolls define it.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  16. Carol T said:

    Bob Pastorio <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    We call them The Big Three... <<<<<<<<

    Just puzzled, who are _we_ Bob?

    Nobody you'd know, Carol. The "we" in the quote is everybody with a sense of irony, a sense of
    humor, a sense of justice, a sense of outrage at the hypocrisy of people who assert they're
    Christians and try to inflict deliberate harm on others, and a sense of the inherent evil in the
    malicious behavior of Chung and Mu.

    You just keep on thumping your bible and soapboxing, Carol, and I'll keep on doing what I do. Your
    performance here for the past weeks has been really instructive about fanatical dedication. YOu've
    managed to compile a splendid record. No questions asked to really get information. A certain smug
    surety that you have all the information necessary. A superior tone. A wonderfully opaque way of
    writing sentences, devoid of meaning except to you and any other people with that decoder ring. Talk
    *at* people like some irritating nanny who knows how everyone else should live their lives.

    I'll pray for you.

    Pastorio

  17. Play your game someplace else please.

    I am not the fool you appear to think I am.

    "Derek F" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If you are afraid to put your name to your posts we do not have any faith


    in

    Quoted message said:

    your opinions. Be a man stand in the open if you want to fight the Doc. Derek.

  18. The moron is what I said, a liar many times over. He is acting like a deranged internet pervert that
    will stoop to any level to control any media he believes dictated by his religion and culture to be
    powerful in the control of a nation.

    The answer to your question is "NO". I was never prosecuted for threatening anyone twice, three
    times, or four times, or whatever story they will imagine next. (I cannot believe I am even
    answering to this moronic liar's accusations).

    I think somebody has me confused, in his wild pursuit of his hatred of Christians, with somebody
    else. I believe, in his head, he believes his parents were tortured by a Christian person of equal
    competitive stature named Adolf [censored] and now he must regain the control taken away from his kind,
    dreaming up wild stories and trying to gain backers defeat his perceived enemies.

    Wow! What a freak show!

    "Mars Not M_un" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ear Rings said:

    He lies about many things. This is also his history in many places with


    many

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    people.

    Rings, did you get prosecuted

  19. Ear Rings said:

    The answer to your question is "NO". I was never prosecuted for threatening anyone twice, three
    times, or four times, or whatever story they will imagine next. (I cannot believe I am even
    answering to this moronic liar's accusations).

    .................

    Of course you weren't prosecuted, Larry.

    I never said you were prosecuted.

    smn

  20. Ear Rings said:

    The moron Nagler is what I said, a liar many times over. He is acting like a deranged internet
    pervert that will stoop to any level to control any media he believes dictated by his religion and
    culture to be powerful in the control of a nation.

    The answer to your question is "NO". I was never prosecuted for threatening anyone twice, three
    times, or four times, or whatever story they will imagine next. (I cannot believe I am even
    answering to this moronic liar's accusations).

    Let's get this straight since Nagler's reputation relies on it.

    You were arrested. No biggee. People get arrested all the time for no good reason. Arrested, yes?

    Did you go to trial, and if not, why not?

    Quoted message said:

    I think somebody has me confused, in his wild pursuit of his hatred of Christians, with somebody
    else. I believe, in his head, he believes his parents were tortured by a Christian person of equal
    competitive stature named Adolf [censored] and now he must regain the control taken away from his kind,
    dreaming up wild stories and trying to gain backers defeat his perceived enemies.

    Wow! What a freak show!

    I know what is bothering Nagler about prayer and his "respect" for Christianity but that is for a
    later time.

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