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    "Travis Pupkin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:M5med.233525$wV.129284@attbi_s54...

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    The GOP is hiring thousands of goons to intimidate voters at


    polling places. If

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    nothing else these thugs will slow down the election so


    people decide to leave

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    instead of waiting in line. In Ohio alone the GOP has


    recruited 3,600 goons, at

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    a cost of $100 per person, to basically challenge the right


    of people who show

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    up at the polls. Once again Bush pulls the same [censored] [censored]


    did in the 30s and

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    40s. Bush has created his own army of brown shirts to haunt


    polling places

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    intimidating people. This is pure fascism. Bush is one evil


    [censored].

    That was on McNeil Lehr or maybe the Charlie Rose show
    two nights ago also...several in depth interviews on what was
    going on. Unfortunately it fits with the utterly bogus
    Homeland Security measures the admistration tried to
    impliment, some found unconstitional and reversed by the
    supreme court a month or so ago.

    Its a little hard to fathom though that this could be
    going on in America.

    I saw the 'Captain America' film tonite (or similar
    title) its just out... a clay animation cartoon type movie
    directly on these issues in the most vulgar, penetrating ....
    terms.. with one real ugly Korean.. I recommend the movie.
    It could be seen as GWB support or a ludicrous parody of
    GWB...but also trashes liberals.. it may be non partisan
    accurate portrayal of the mess, or not. ... ballsy though.

    Im currently consulting for a company that chose to use
    idiots to run a small 20k pipe job...and chose to ignore my
    advice..now the thing is leaking and they have to fix the
    leaks over new hardwood floors (huge sales area)...its a hair
    tearing out mess... they over rode me decisions each step of
    the way...told their crew of morons to run the pipe at odd
    angles to save fittings (3 dollars each, saved 30 bucks)..
    now they have a mess. Just some heart burn that tends to
    drive off good staff.. they will still make the planned money
    on the job though... they were trying to make an extra 5k...
    so now tomorrow they get to go in over the new hardwood floors
    and cut water lines and catch the water gushing out so the
    floor doesnt get wet..then take all kinds of strange and
    elaborate measures to get the pipe dry inside...and refit the
    leaking sections.

    Idiocy creates 100 times as much trouble as it ever gains in
    the end, and the heartburn is off the top... but nobody will
    die... the company will loose some more good men..and be left
    with utter idiots..including its owner who makes these
    ruthlessly dumb ass decisions.. its a week of [censored] to put up
    with.

    Fighting muslim guerilla's has traditionally gone on for
    centuries...so we invaded Iraq then randomly arrested
    civilians if they were anywhere near Bagdad, then at our CIA's
    direction (currently being covered up but not real well) our
    GI's are encouraged to sink to scum levels and *ruthlessly
    sexually abuse the prisoners with a mind to ruining them
    spiritually?

    Now that you see is a *real problem. these people will
    be handing us the heads of our people at will for a long time
    now.... and regardless of GWB's macho.

    The combination of arrogance and a lack of utter brilliance
    goes south badly every time, regardless ones stated or actual
    motives or intent. If you do it wrong its going to cost big
    time....and the heart burn will be severe.

    I will not try to talk to my client about his issues any
    further... I will not be there sacrificing my nervous system
    to help them fix thier disaster. I will stand off and point
    out...'ah you have leaks, be sure not to get the floor wet'
    (that would cost them 20,000 dollars or so.

    After a time the pattern is clear... one must boogie on and do
    business elsewhere, ever vigilant for idiots...especially
    macho arrogant idiots.. these force thier error on entire
    systems and the damage can be devastating... the heart burn
    endless. The costs almost limitless.

    For various reasons, in 1995 I was deposed for testimony
    before congress on corruption issues at our nuclear weapons
    plants.. 2 hours or so...and they asked me why I spoke up in
    the first place and stunningly asked me 'whats in it for
    you'... amazing some of these people.

    I told them that if allow criminally insane management and the
    gentle folk from our CIA to force engineers to do and condone
    the utterly reprehensible (such as pumping high level nuclear
    waste into dry wells that leached to the 100 mile long aquafer
    under cincinatti (for one example)... by that we are
    destroying the integrity of our engineers..and with no
    integrity we get bad decisions and in the end a collapse of
    entire systems.

    In 1998 at Hanford they sent an idiot to check the level of
    *high level radio active sludge in a million gallon tank
    (like the one that went critical in Russia contaminating north
    western europe)... he used a rope with a rock tied to one end,
    lowered it full depth into the tank, then came back to the
    engineering office and laid this totally radio active mess on
    his desk.

    He will have now a much forshortened life, as will those who
    were in the vicinity at the time...the clean up will cost tens
    of millions. (Hanford Nuclear Weapons site is in eastern
    Washington State).

    Such is the nature of corruption... it takes out its host.

    If Kerry were on the other side of the mess he would be
    raising a wide range of issues that he is not raising.... he
    is clammed up too.

    The influence comes from elsewhere... its corrupt.. its
    special interests, and its related closely to the expose in
    the late 90's of the CIA running hundreds of tons of cocain
    into the US on USAF and CIA C-130's ..landing at Edwards AFB
    and selling the drugs to gang members on the streets of LA....
    how do we know that?

    Ollie North admitted it in his testimony before congress, LA
    cops and USAF officers testified accordingly...then Ollie
    elaborated...'we needed the money....'

    Sworn testimony...it made a '60 minutes' special... you can
    order the tape.

    Amazin' ain't it? So our kiddies in LA, Chicago, NYC and
    Podunk Idaho were snorting CIA cocain... thats just great for
    the nations future of course... they get to flunk out of math
    class that way.

    Such is the nature of corruption.... it takes out its
    host.

    Phil Scott

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    Read about this in the NY Times, here:


    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/23/politics/campaign/23vote.html?hp&ex=1098504000&en=420a0a2df3218dec&ei=5059&partner=AOL

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