Orange P7 Pro: Sensible Purchase

Ian G Batten said:

In my quest for a high-quality hardtail, for use on canal towpaths (including poor ones), perhaps
the odd venture onto the hills and general fiddling about, with ``nice object to own'' also an
objective, I think I've settled on:

Orange P7 Pro +Hope Mono Mini brakes (because I want discs) +Foxfloat R100 fork (because the
obviously competent guy in the shop reckoned it a worthwhile alternative to the stock Manitou
Skareb Comp 100)

Should I also consider going from a Ritchie Scuzzy Logic headset to either a Hope or a Raceface
one? What about going from Hope XC to a Hope Bulb hubs? My objective is a one-spend, job-done
purchase.

I presume composite bars and seatposts are mostly male jewellery, yes?

ian

I've got an old (5 years at a guess, could be more) Orange O2, which has a Scuzzy Logic headset.
Serviced it for what I think was the first time (i bought it second hand) in the summer and it was
in excellent condition. If they still make them like they used to, I wouldn't change it.

Also the same bike had a Hope titanium rear hub (looks like it may be the XC model). It failed most
catastrophicly going over a small pothole in the road, the flange sheared accross four spokes on
tthe non-drive side (IIRC), I was lucky the wheel stayed intact long enough to limp home. There were
cracks forming accross the spoke eyes on the other flange too. I have it on good authority that the
failure was down to poor manufactoring process. From this experience I will never trust Hope
equipment again.

Good luck with the P7 whichever spec you choose. I love my O2!

Chris

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Ian G Batten said:

In my quest for a high-quality hardtail, for use on canal towpaths (including poor ones), perhaps
the odd venture onto the hills and general fiddling about, with ``nice object to own'' also an
objective, I think I've settled on:

Orange P7 Pro +Hope Mono Mini brakes (because I want discs) +Foxfloat R100 fork (because the
obviously competent guy in the shop reckoned it a worthwhile alternative to the stock Manitou
Skareb Comp 100) Should I also consider going from a Ritchie Scuzzy Logic headset to either a Hope
or a Raceface one? What about going from Hope XC to a Hope Bulb hubs? My objective is a one-spend,
job-done purchase.

I presume composite bars and seatposts are mostly male jewellery, yes?

It's all male jewelry, really. And frankly, this bike is so overspecced for it's purpose that a bit
more overspec doesn't really make any difference. Canal towpaths, even poor ones, are very
undemanding riding, and this bike is optimised for much more rugged terrain. It will do it, of
course, and do it well; but it might be worth considering whether a singlespeed would do it equally
well with more cool for less cost with a lot less bits to go wrong.

Something like an On-one Inbred or Tinbred, for instance <URL: on-on-Open ↗
one.co.uk/products/inbred.shtml > or a Cannondale 1FG <URL: cannondale.commodelOpen ↗
3MRSS.html >

Not that I'm against people having male jewelry or absurdly overspecced machines, of coure - I
do myself.

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"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote

Re well specced mtb:

Quoted message said:

It will do it, of course, and do it well; but it might be worth considering whether a singlespeed
would do it equally well with more cool for less cost with a lot less bits to go wrong.

Dunno, I think only real mtbers may think of a single speed as being cool, I imagine laypeople will
be more impressed by the number of gears and those who know only a little by XTR logos.

But I agree the OP should buy an overspecced bike if he wants. Not only is it his right to do so but
if a lot of people did so eventually they would filter into the secondhand market sufficiently to
saturate it with un-hammered very well specced bikes that I could afford and thence hammer ;-)

Pete

Peter B said:

"Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote

Re well specced mtb:

Quoted message said:

It will do it, of course, and do it well; but it might be worth considering whether a
singlespeed would do it equally well with more cool for less cost with a lot less bits to go
wrong.

Dunno, I think only real mtbers may think of a single speed as being cool, I imagine laypeople
will be more impressed by the number of gears and those who know only a little by XTR logos.

The only MTBers who think singlespeed is cool are the ones who ride up East anglain mountains.
Singlespeed is fine for canal towpaths and mountains less than one metre tall; give me geers for
anything else.

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