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Optimizing Overall Efficiency; Weight Isn't That Big A Factor

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  1. Assume that a drive efficiency improvement results in a 15% increase in drive weight and drive wt.
    is 15% of bicycle wt. and bicycle wt. is 15% of total weight and that rolling resistance is 20% of
    total power consumption because, let's face it, the 800 pound gorilla is wind resistance.

    That's about 0.07% decrease in *overall* efficiency on flat land due to weight.

    There may be some room for drive train efficiency improvements that will increase overall
    efficiency.

    Bret Cahill

    Bret Cahill

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    Assume that a drive efficiency improvement results in a 15% increase in drive weight and drive wt.
    is 15% of bicycle wt. and bicycle wt. is 15% of total weight and that rolling resistance is 20% of
    total power consumption because, let's face it, the 800 pound gorilla is wind resistance.

    That's about 0.07% decrease in *overall* efficiency on flat land due to weight.

    There may be some room for drive train efficiency improvements that will increase overall
    efficiency.

    Krikey, yes... if you look at the convoluted drivetrains of the "speedbikes" running at the WHPSC
    this week, you'll see some of the lengths the builders go to in order to cram a rider into a
    streamined shell.

    BTW: Sam Whittingham is cracking off 75+ mph runs regular as clockwork:
    wisil.recumbents.comresults.htm Pics of vehicles with and without
    fairings: wisil.recumbents.comresultswednesday.htm

    Jeff

  3. Wow.. 75+.. amazing.

    I think I saw something about Sam Whittingham on TLC or Discovery a while ago.. really cool.

    Mike mikebeauchamp.commikebeauchamp.com

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    Assume that a drive efficiency improvement results in a 15% increase in drive weight and drive
    wt. is 15% of bicycle wt. and bicycle wt. is 15% of total weight and that rolling resistance is
    20% of total power consumption because, let's face it, the 800 pound gorilla is wind resistance.

    That's about 0.07% decrease in *overall* efficiency on flat land due to weight.

    There may be some room for drive train efficiency improvements that will increase overall
    efficiency.

    Krikey, yes... if you look at the convoluted drivetrains of the "speedbikes" running at the WHPSC
    this week, you'll see some of the lengths the builders go to in order to cram a rider into a
    streamined shell.

    BTW: Sam Whittingham is cracking off 75+ mph runs regular as clockwork:
    wisil.recumbents.comresults.htm Pics of vehicles with and without
    fairings: wisil.recumbents.comresultswednesday.htm

    Jeff

  4. "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    BTW: Sam Whittingham is cracking off 75+ mph

    Note: In some versions of the english language "cracking off" eq "farting".

  5. "W K" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Jeff Wills" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    BTW: Sam Whittingham is cracking off 75+ mph

    Note: In some versions of the english language "cracking off" eq "farting".

    Hmmm... an interesting colloquialism. Sam's Canadian, I'm a U.S.-type person (I'll avoid using the
    imprecise "American" designation.). Does that make a difference?

    On the other hand... they're in completely sealed fairings. Maybe *that's* why he's going
    so fast. ;-)

    Jeff

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