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  1. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldbills/035/2006035.htm

    Too complex to understand immediately, but potentially relevant, a
    Bill in parliament whereby:

    A court considering a claim in negligence may, in determining whether
    the defendant should have taken particular steps to meet the standard
    of care (whether by taking precautions against a risk or otherwise),
    have regard to whether a requirement to take those steps might—
    (a) prevent a desirable activity from being undertaken at all, to a
    particular extent or in a particular way, or
    (b) discourage persons from undertaking functions in connection with a
    desirable activity.

    Which, although it's designed to protect doctors, may or may not have
    implications for contributory negligence claims. The sharks are
    swimming round it as we speak...

    That may, of course, be blind optimism.

    Guy
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  2. Just zis Guy said:

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldbills/035/2006035.htm

    Too complex to understand immediately, but potentially relevant, a
    Bill in parliament whereby:

    A court considering a claim in negligence may, in determining whether
    the defendant should have taken particular steps to meet the standard
    of care (whether by taking precautions against a risk or otherwise),
    have regard to whether a requirement to take those steps might-
    (a) prevent a desirable activity from being undertaken at all, to a
    particular extent or in a particular way, or
    (b) discourage persons from undertaking functions in connection with a
    desirable activity.

    Which, although it's designed to protect doctors, may or may not have
    implications for contributory negligence claims. The sharks are
    swimming round it as we speak...

    That may, of course, be blind optimism.

    It would be decidedly interesting if it did get through. Might one
    think that a) MP's are not neccessarily aware of the consequences b)
    their constituents do not understand how teh abstract will apply to the
    specific, and c) the knock on effects could be very valuable for
    certain areas of society[1].<fx "jaws theme">

    ...d

    [1] used in the loosest possible sense

  3. Looks as if the main effect will be to allow those responsible for the
    safety of others to allow those others to pursue a potentially
    dangerous activity without risk of being sued if/when accidents result
    (provided proper precautions are taken where applicable) where the
    activity has a benefit which outweighs or partly outweighs the risk
    (e.g. where a form of exercise can cause injury but is usually good for
    the person).

    An obvious application is for schools: the clause should allow teachers
    to permit potentially hazardous activities such as swimming or of
    course cycling without having to run so much risk of being sued if a
    pupil is injured despite proper precautions having been taken. It could
    also affect a school head's decision on whether to encourage pupils to
    cycle to school.

    It does not say, but does seem to imply, that some more responsibility
    to avoid hazards could be placed upon the supervised person, i.e. it
    might be easier for a person acting under another's supervision to be
    found to have shown contributory negligence.

    It is hard to imagine a case where a cyclist was struck by a motor
    vehicle might be affected, as I cannot think of a situation where a
    driver might be supervising a cyclist.

    Jon

  4. Quoted message said:

    It is hard to imagine a case where a cyclist was struck by a motor
    vehicle might be affected, as I cannot think of a situation where a
    driver might be supervising a cyclist.

    Cycling is commonly percieved as beneficial to health of both body and
    wallet (ebay junkies notwithstanding). Helemt promotion is commonly
    regarded as a disincentive to participate in a beneficial activity.
    Requiring a helmet as being neccessary otherwise one is contributorily
    negligent when it is obvious to the man in the street[1] that helemts
    provide a great benefit when run over by a cement mixer and only a fule
    wouldn't were one would be quietly kaiboshed by this law.

    ...d

    [1] who hasn't read more than the BHIT leaflet his kids school sent
    home.

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