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One size fits all diets

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  1. I think we need to start looking at peoples individual situations
    before recommending a diet.

    The Atkins Diet is not a healthy diet period, but neither is being
    obese. For these unfortunate people who can't or won't lose weight
    through any other means are essentially taking the lesser of two
    evils. I would not recommend this diet to anyone but those whose life
    is in serious jeopardy due to their weight. The Atkins Diet can
    produce serious and unwanted side effects but so can many drugs, just
    as long as the cure is not worse than the disease.

    A healthy person at a healthy weight eating a diet of say 60% carbs
    25% fat & 15% protein should stay on that diet. These people are not
    at the same risk in developing the complications that occur in obese
    people. If a healthy person goes on Atkins who is at a healthy weight
    or maybe a few pounds overweight they will probably develop heart
    disease or other side effects of eating a high fat low nutrition diet.

    I think you have to look at family history when trying to find the
    right diet for someone. Someone with a family history of heart
    disease might have to watch their fat and cholesterol intake more
    closely. Someone like me with no family history of heart disease does
    not need be as concerned with fat and cholesterol intake.

    A healthy person should eat a wide range of foods and get rid of the
    processed foods, bad fats/oils, refined sugars etc that are not good
    for anyone.

    Meats, fruits & vegetables, whole grains, fats, dairy are all healthy
    in reasonable portions and part of a healthy diet. If an obese person
    cuts out whole grains and substitutes meat instead that may be the
    best choice for their situation but not for someone else. A person
    with high cholesterol or a history of heart disease may substitute
    whole grains and vegetables for meat & dairy. Again perhaps the best
    diet for their health problem but not the best diet for someone else.

    On this board and elsewhere there is this need to come up with the
    definitive diet that everyone should follow but that diet does not
    exist. Individuals have unique needs and circumstances that will not
    be served by this one size fits all diet. We need to get away from
    these diets where all they offer is eliminating entire healthy food
    groups from ones diet. Whether its carbs, meat, dairy, etc they all
    have a place in a healthy diet.

  2. Wholy agree with you.
    The mode here in the country where I live was to favour vegetables, water,

    no fats, no sugars and so on.
    I was in good health, but on a day I decided to become a vegetarian and to
    drink only water.
    Well, as result I got a disease! I will not go into details, but it was
    enough bad a disease, one for which there seems to be no cure.
    I came through it when returning to a balanced diet including again meat
    and drinks with sugars! True, I eat only bio meat now.
    While coping with the disease I studied a lot and found on the Internet
    a site where they said the success of
    becoming a vegetarian might depend upon the boodgroup.
    According to my bloodgroup I belonged to the meateaters!.
    Others may have a bloodgroup which may be better suited for vegetarian
    food.

    If you are interested in reading what I wrote myself about nutrition while

    coping with the disease, some songs are available on my site.
    Have a listen to them when you've some time. (see links below)
    I think my conclusion would be the same as yours: nutrition is the
    key to health, but one has to find out which foods are best suited for us.

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/vivien.htm
    Songs:
    On Healing:
    http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1722174&q=Lo
    The Ear - this one is of the very important role of nutrition:
    http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1749324&q=Lo
    The Good Time - this one is about rest, getting goot time, habits, and so
    on:
    http://www.soundclick.com/util/streamM3U.m3u?ID=1678300&q=Lo

    Vivian

    jt said:

    I think we need to start looking at peoples individual situations
    before recommending a diet.

    The Atkins Diet is not a healthy diet period, but neither is being
    obese. For these unfortunate people who can't or won't lose weight
    through any other means are essentially taking the lesser of two
    evils. I would not recommend this diet to anyone but those whose life
    is in serious jeopardy due to their weight. The Atkins Diet can
    produce serious and unwanted side effects but so can many drugs, just
    as long as the cure is not worse than the disease.

    A healthy person at a healthy weight eating a diet of say 60% carbs
    25% fat & 15% protein should stay on that diet. These people are not
    at the same risk in developing the complications that occur in obese
    people. If a healthy person goes on Atkins who is at a healthy weight
    or maybe a few pounds overweight they will probably develop heart
    disease or other side effects of eating a high fat low nutrition diet.

    I think you have to look at family history when trying to find the
    right diet for someone. Someone with a family history of heart
    disease might have to watch their fat and cholesterol intake more
    closely. Someone like me with no family history of heart disease does
    not need be as concerned with fat and cholesterol intake.

    A healthy person should eat a wide range of foods and get rid of the
    processed foods, bad fats/oils, refined sugars etc that are not good
    for anyone.

    Meats, fruits & vegetables, whole grains, fats, dairy are all healthy
    in reasonable portions and part of a healthy diet. If an obese person
    cuts out whole grains and substitutes meat instead that may be the
    best choice for their situation but not for someone else. A person
    with high cholesterol or a history of heart disease may substitute
    whole grains and vegetables for meat & dairy. Again perhaps the best
    diet for their health problem but not the best diet for someone else.

    On this board and elsewhere there is this need to come up with the
    definitive diet that everyone should follow but that diet does not
    exist. Individuals have unique needs and circumstances that will not
    be served by this one size fits all diet. We need to get away from
    these diets where all they offer is eliminating entire healthy food
    groups from ones diet. Whether its carbs, meat, dairy, etc they all
    have a place in a healthy diet.

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