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On-line bike mapping

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  1. Hi folks--
    Some bike club pals and others are real intrigued by this:

    http://bikemetro.com/route/routehome.asp

    Looks like it would be easy enough to implement on a wider scale.
    Start with a basic routing program that has clickable options: terrain,
    distance, main/side roads. The current ones available offer similar,
    motorist-oriented options.

    Then, when the local cyclists contribute routes, those can go in the
    database and become selectable.

    Anyone in L.A. (not the TdF winner) who can check this program for
    us?

    --Karen M.

  2. Karen,

    I visited with the BikeMetro folks at the ESRI convention last summer.
    The maps that are produced are not static "route" maps, they are built
    dynamically using a geographic information system (GIS) which utilizes
    user input to determine the route which best meets their requirements.
    A collection of static routes is nice, but the bikemetro system allows
    you to put in any address pair and find the route that best meets your
    desires (steepest, flattest, lowest traffic, etc.).

    The data needed for the system to work includes at least the following:
    an elevation map; a complete road network (including directionality,
    speed limits, traffic volumes, number of lanes, traffic control
    devices, lane restrictions, etc.); and any of a number of frivolities
    like local attractions, stores, background imagery, etc.

    The system runs on a server with ArcIMS providing the mapping, a
    database such as SQL server, and a web server for the website. It
    requires considerable expertise to get the mapping portion working
    properly.

    If you want to set up static routes, that wouldn't be too difficult.
    But what they have done is much more complex, is much more flexible,
    and provides much better routes than a static system.

    The rep was looking for other cities to partner with so they could
    expand their program. Just keep in mind that it is expensive....

    -Buck

  3. Buck said:

    I visited with the BikeMetro folks at the ESRI convention last


    summer.

    Quoted message said:

    The maps that are produced are not static "route" maps, they are


    built

    Quoted message said:

    dynamically using a geographic information system (GIS) which


    utilizes

    Quoted message said:

    user input to determine the route which best meets their


    requirements.

    Quoted message said:

    A collection of static routes is nice, but the bikemetro system


    allows

    Quoted message said:

    you to put in any address pair and find the route that best meets


    your

    Quoted message said:

    desires (steepest, flattest, lowest traffic, etc.).

    The data needed for the system to work includes at least the


    following:

    Quoted message said:

    an elevation map; a complete road network (including directionality,
    speed limits, traffic volumes, number of lanes, traffic control
    devices, lane restrictions, etc.); and any of a number of frivolities
    like local attractions, stores, background imagery, etc.

    The system runs on a server with ArcIMS providing the mapping, a
    database such as SQL server, and a web server for the website. It
    requires considerable expertise to get the mapping portion working
    properly.

    If you want to set up static routes, that wouldn't be too difficult.
    But what they have done is much more complex, is much more flexible,
    and provides much better routes than a static system.

    The rep was looking for other cities to partner with so they could
    expand their program. Just keep in mind that it is expensive....

    Am familiar with GIS. The graduating kids got to take classes in it
    on computers that worked, while us old-timers (B.S. urban planning
    1978) struggle through professional development sessions with every
    excuse in the book. (Someone lost the key to the program, the key to
    the computer lab room, visiting scholars are attempting to make it
    work, we just got new I-Macs so we can't be bothered with this
    DOS-based software, you name it...the regents refunded my tuition for
    that class...but I digress.)

    I don't believe I typed anything about setting up static routes.
    "...any of a number of frivolities like local attractions, stores,
    background imagery, etc." would seem to need to be input by a human,
    not just have a layer optioned ON.

    Living as I do in the area with the most in-depth GIS system in the
    state, it seems to reason that a base-level BikeMetro program would be
    a simple matter of importing data and then minor tweaking. Yeah, I
    know, developers can write their own ticket.

    And how expensive are we talking, and how come their main company
    e-mail address bounces???

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    --Karen M.
    who is really sick of the same old visiting cycle tourist queries about
    how to get through/around metro Detroit and across the Detroit River

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