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  1. Rhonda Anderson said:


    I hope I'm right here - when Americans talk about eating oatmeal I've
    always assumed they're talking about the same thing as porridge. If I'm
    wrong, let me know!

    Of course oatmeal (when cooked in liquid) is a porridge, why would you
    think otherwise... do you think Americans eat oats from a nose bag...
    you watch way too many oaters.

    Naturally, oatmeal, like other meals, is used in all manner of recipes,
    from breads to meat loaf... some Americans even use oatmeal as a skin
    defoliant, it's often included in soaps.

    Merriam Webster

    por·ridge
    : alteration of pottage
    : a soft food made by boiling meal of grains or legumes in milk or
    water until thick
    ---

    Sheldon Maypo

  2. Sheldon said:
    Rhonda Anderson said:


    I hope I'm right here - when Americans talk about eating oatmeal I've
    always assumed they're talking about the same thing as porridge. If I'm
    wrong, let me know!

    Of course oatmeal (when cooked in liquid) is a porridge, why would you
    think otherwise... do you think Americans eat oats from a nose bag...
    you watch way too many oaters.

    Naturally, oatmeal, like other meals, is used in all manner of recipes,
    from breads to meat loaf... some Americans even use oatmeal as a skin
    defoliant, it's often included in soaps.

    Merriam Webster

    por·ridge
    : alteration of pottage
    : a soft food made by boiling meal of grains or legumes in milk or
    water until thick

    Of course cooked oatmeal is porridge, but not all porridge is oatmeal.

  3. Dave Smith said:
    Quoted message said:

    Of course oatmeal (when cooked in liquid) is a porridge, why would you
    think otherwise... do you think Americans eat oats from a nose bag...
    you watch way too many oaters.

    Quoted message said:

    Of course cooked oatmeal is porridge, but not all porridge is oatmeal.

    Wait..... To a Brit like me - and possibly Australians as well - there *is*
    only one porridge, and that's made from oats.

    When we boil rolled oats [labelled Porridge Oats in the supermarket] with
    milk or water and add salt, sugar or honey to make a gloopy breakfast dish,
    it is called Porridge. We don't call it anything else... and if you mention
    Porridge to a Brit, s/he will know you mean the stuff made from oats that
    you have for breakfast. In modern British English usage, that's the only
    porridge there is.

    So technically speaking, "a porridge" can be made from other substances in
    some places outside the UK... but inside the UK and in some other
    English-speaking places, "porridge" is only made from oats.

    Oxford English Dictionary:
    porridge n. food made by boiling oatmeal or cereal in water or milk

    ....and if you ask for "oatmeal" in the UK, you will be given finely ground -
    almost powdered - uncooked oats.

    *shrugs* just one o' them thar cultural differences I guess.
    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
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  4. EastneyEnder said:
    Dave Smith said:
    Quoted message said:

    Of course oatmeal (when cooked in liquid) is a porridge, why would you
    think otherwise... do you think Americans eat oats from a nose bag...
    you watch way too many oaters.

    Quoted message said:

    Of course cooked oatmeal is porridge, but not all porridge is oatmeal.

    Wait..... To a Brit like me - and possibly Australians as well - there *is*
    only one porridge, and that's made from oats.

    Quoted message said:

    Oxford English Dictionary:
    porridge n. food made by boiling oatmeal or cereal in water or milk

    So Oxford supports both views. But , yeah, in britspeak porridge is
    only oat porridge, which we call oatmeal despite it not being made from
    meal.

    Funny ol' world, and all that. I'm always surprised at the chauvinist
    attitude in even kind responses. Someone owes Rhonda a biscuit.

    Greg Zywicki

  5. EastneyEnder said:


    Quoted message said:

    Of course cooked oatmeal is porridge, but not all porridge is oatmeal.

    Wait..... To a Brit like me - and possibly Australians as well - there *is*
    only one porridge, and that's made from oats.

    When we boil rolled oats [labelled Porridge Oats in the supermarket] with
    milk or water and add salt, sugar or honey to make a gloopy breakfast dish,
    it is called Porridge. We don't call it anything else... and if you mention
    Porridge to a Brit, s/he will know you mean the stuff made from oats that
    you have for breakfast. In modern British English usage, that's the only
    porridge there is.

    My English grandmother and my father, raised by English parents and having spent
    3 years in England during the war, used the terms oatmeal, porridge and oatmeal
    porridge interchangeably. Oatmeal here in Canada is sold as oatmeal, coming as
    instant, quick cooking, large flake or steel cut. Cream of Wheat and Red River
    are both sold as hot cereal.

    Quoted message said:

    So technically speaking, "a porridge" can be made from other substances in
    some places outside the UK... but inside the UK and in some other
    English-speaking places, "porridge" is only made from oats.

    Oxford English Dictionary:
    porridge n. food made by boiling oatmeal or cereal in water or milk

    ...and if you ask for "oatmeal" in the UK, you will be given finely ground -
    almost powdered - uncooked oats.

    Especially when you back it up with a definition that indicates it doesn't have
    to be oatmeal. :-)

    I think that a lot of people assume that most people associate the word porridge
    with oatmeal because it by far the most common. In the hot cereals section in
    the grocery stores here we have usually one McCanns steel cut oats, at least
    three variations of rolled oats by at least three different suppliers, and then
    one row each of minute Cream of Wheat and the 8 minute stuff, and a row of Red
    River, and sometimes one other. Basically, the non Oatmeal porridges account for
    less than 10% of the hot cereal choices.

    Let's face it, a lot of people just don't like porridge period. There are those
    of us who consider oatmeal to be a tasty and healthy breakfast food, and then
    there is a smaller number who like Cream of Wheat.

  6. Dave Smith said:

    Especially when you back it up with a definition that indicates it doesn't
    have to be oatmeal. :-)

    True, but here we don't eat any other kind of cereal porridge - only the oat
    kind :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Cream of Wheat and the 8 minute stuff, and a row of Red River, and sometimes
    one other. Basically, the non Oatmeal porridges account for less than 10% of
    the hot cereal choices.

    Never see those here.
    Oh, I lie.... I once saw a small box of Cream of Wheat in a small specialist
    Caribbean shop in Ridley Road Market, Dalston, London. But I had to go home
    & look it up on the internet to find out what it was, and what it was used
    for!

    We just don't do non-oat porridges here, so the term "oat porridge" and
    "porridge" have become synonymous.

    Sue
    Portsmouth, UK
    --
    pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

  7. Dave Smith said:

    In the hot cereals section in the grocery stores here we have usually one
    McCanns steel cut oats, at least three variations of rolled oats by at least
    three different suppliers, and then one row each of minute Cream of Wheat and
    the 8 minute stuff, and a row of Red River, and sometimes one other.

    Oh yes - I meant to add.... In our hot cereal section here we normally get:

    * Rolled Oats [supermarket generic, plus usually Scott's Porage Oats]
    * Rolled Oats with added wheat bran
    * Readybrek [an instant hot oat cereal but with no sugar or salt or
    additives at all - very popular here]
    * Oat So Simple [a recent export to the UK, first appeared 2 years ago. Not
    keen on the stuff, and we don't get Peach flavour, like you do!].

    plus in the more affluent supermarkets...
    * Some kind of organic hand-rolled, woven (or whatever!) Rolled Oats.

    And that's it.

  8. "EastneyEnder" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ...and if you ask for "oatmeal" in the UK, you will be given finely
    ground -


    almost powdered - uncooked oats.

    In Scotland oatmeal is very well known in all its guises and used to be
    a staple. They cook it with water and salt and in the old days, they
    used to pour it into a wooden drawer to set🙂) Slice of porridge
    anyone🙂)

  9. "EastneyEnder" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Smith said:

    In the hot cereals section in the grocery stores here we have
    usually one
    McCanns steel cut oats, at least three variations of rolled oats by
    at least
    three different suppliers, and then one row each of minute Cream of
    Wheat and
    the 8 minute stuff, and a row of Red River, and sometimes one other.

    Oh yes - I meant to add.... In our hot cereal section here we normally
    get:

    * Rolled Oats [supermarket generic, plus usually Scott's Porage Oats]
    * Rolled Oats with added wheat bran
    * Readybrek [an instant hot oat cereal but with no sugar or salt or
    additives at all - very popular here]
    * Oat So Simple [a recent export to the UK, first appeared 2 years
    ago. Not
    keen on the stuff, and we don't get Peach flavour, like you do!].

    plus in the more affluent supermarkets...
    * Some kind of organic hand-rolled, woven (or whatever!) Rolled Oats.

    We get pinhead and steel cut oats too in Scotland

  10. Ophelia said:

    We get pinhead and steel cut oats too in Scotland

    Cool.
    Well I was basing my list on what I can remember seeing in my local Co-Op
    supermarket...
    ....and literally the other end of the country from you! :-)

  11. "EastneyEnder" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ophelia said:

    We get pinhead and steel cut oats too in Scotland

    Cool.
    Well I was basing my list on what I can remember seeing in my local
    Co-Op
    supermarket...
    ...and literally the other end of the country from you! :-)

    Yes I understood that🙂 You are also in England🙂) Scotland has a
    cultural history of using oatmeal🙂

    Quoted message said:
  12. Ophelia

    Quoted message said:

    In Scotland oatmeal is very well known in all its guises and used to be
    a staple. They cook it with water and salt and in the old days, they
    used to pour it into a wooden drawer to set🙂) Slice of porridge
    anyone🙂)

    When I lived in Scotland (for a year, while attending St. Andrews), I
    discovered an entire new world of oatmeal creations, including that drink --
    what is it? With scotch and hot water?? I didn't dream that, did I???

    Spitz
    --
    "Home, James, and don't spare the horses!"

  13. Ophelia

    Quoted message said:

    In Scotland oatmeal is very well known in all its guises and used to be
    a staple. They cook it with water and salt and in the old days, they
    used to pour it into a wooden drawer to set🙂) Slice of porridge
    anyone🙂)

    When I lived in Scotland (for a year, while attending St. Andrews), I
    discovered an entire new world of oatmeal creations, including that drink --
    what is it? With scotch and hot water?? I didn't dream that, did I???

    Spitz
    --
    "Home, James, and don't spare the horses!"

  14. "Spitzmaus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ophelia

    Quoted message said:

    In Scotland oatmeal is very well known in all its guises and used to
    be
    a staple. They cook it with water and salt and in the old days, they
    used to pour it into a wooden drawer to set🙂) Slice of porridge
    anyone🙂)

    When I lived in Scotland (for a year, while attending St. Andrews), I
    discovered an entire new world of oatmeal creations, including that
    drink --
    what is it? With scotch and hot water?? I didn't dream that, did
    I???

    Hmm was it a hot toddy? scotch, hot water and honey?

    If you mean a pudding with oatmeal, scotch, cream etc?? that is called
    Cranachan

    If you want a recipe I can give you one🙂 I can't think of a drink with
    oatmeal and scotch.

  15. On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:59:16 +0100, jake <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    jake said:

    LurfysMa wrote:

    >On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:23:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
    ><[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>Heidi the Hygienist told me that one of her patients does this with
    >>oatmeal: Mixes milk with it, 2:1, sets it in the fridge overnight and
    >>eats it cold in the morning. Uncooked, I guess. I think it sounds
    >>disgusting. Has anyone ever heard of this or eaten it? Gack.
    >
    >
    >For the past year or so I have been using a method that I think I read
    >about here. It's for steel cut oats.
    >
    >Place the oats in a dish.
    >Cover with water (about 2:1).
    >Microwave about 1 minute -- just until it starts to boil.
    >Cover and place in refrigerator overnight.
    >
    >The next morning, I have delicious oatmeal that takes just reheating
    >as opposed to 20-30 minutes of cooking.
    >

    I'm goign to try that method. It sounds so quick!

    Quick!? Are you kidding? It takes all night!

    But it won't take up much of my time 🙂

    Exactly.

    My usual drill is to make the next batch right after I finish the
    previous one.

    I rinse out the bowl, pour in the oats, add hot water from the instant
    hot tap (about 190 degrees), microwave 30 seconds, cover and place in
    the frig.

    I always have instant oatmeal in the frig.

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  16. LurfysMa said:

    On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:59:16 +0100, jake <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    jake <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >LurfysMa wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:23:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
    >><[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>Heidi the Hygienist told me that one of her patients does this with
    >>>oatmeal: Mixes milk with it, 2:1, sets it in the fridge overnight and
    >>>eats it cold in the morning. Uncooked, I guess. I think it sounds
    >>>disgusting. Has anyone ever heard of this or eaten it? Gack.
    >>
    >>
    >>For the past year or so I have been using a method that I think I read
    >>about here. It's for steel cut oats.
    >>
    >>Place the oats in a dish.
    >>Cover with water (about 2:1).
    >>Microwave about 1 minute -- just until it starts to boil.
    >>Cover and place in refrigerator overnight.
    >>
    >>The next morning, I have delicious oatmeal that takes just reheating
    >>as opposed to 20-30 minutes of cooking.
    >>
    >
    >I'm goign to try that method. It sounds so quick!

    Quick!? Are you kidding? It takes all night!

    But it won't take up much of my time 🙂

    Exactly.

    My usual drill is to make the next batch right after I finish the
    previous one.

    I rinse out the bowl, pour in the oats, add hot water from the instant
    hot tap (about 190 degrees), microwave 30 seconds, cover and place in
    the frig.

    I always have instant oatmeal in the frig.


    I am not even sure instant is sold here!

  17. sf said:
    jake said:

    So if my post was offensive, I apologize.

    Apology accepted.
    🙂
    --

    Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

    Okidoke 🙂

  18. jake said:
    Sheldon said:


    Hmm, ice cold from the fridge does indeed sound awful... why not just
    use instant... what is it, three minutes in the nuker, and no pot to
    clean.

    Does it come in a disposable pot, In your part of the world, then?

    Sure, nuke in a styrofoam cup, then!

    Jake, where do you keep your brains, in a contact lens case... then?

    Sheldon

  19. Dave Smith said:

    I stopped eating it for years but recently got back into it. I have it ever
    morning. For a while I was making it four servings at a time, eating one and
    then nuking a serving of it each morning. I decided that it was better to
    just make it fresh each morning. I did make an exception yesterday when I
    made a double batch. The second serving was added to a batch of pancake
    batter that I had this morning.

    Give this a shot sometime. I used to eat it every morning. Probably
    should start again. I love these. You can definitely use sugar
    instead of Splenda.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Oatmeal Pancake

    Recipe By 😄amsel
    Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories :

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1 large egg -- slightly beaten
    1/3 cup oatmeal
    1 teaspoon Splenda® granular
    1/2 teaspoon vanilla
    1/4 teaspoon cinnamon

    Combine all ingredients. Pour into a buttered skillet, and press the
    pancake so it's level all the way across. Fry at medium heat until
    browned on both sides. Serve with butter.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 177 Calories; 6g Fat (31.8%
    calories from fat); 10g Protein; 20g Carbohydrate; 3g Dietary Fiber;
    187mg Cholesterol; 57mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 Grain(Starch); 1 Lean
    Meat; 1 Fat.
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  20. jay said:
    Curly Sue said:

    jake, where is "here"? (i.e., where are you?)

    Netherlands..where they does things right..

    An old RFC friend from the Netherlands told me about a yummy beverage
    that she makes there. Hot milk with anise extract and sugar. She
    said that sugar cubes are sold there with the anise flavor already in
    them. This stuff is so good!!

    Carol
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