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New Technology Senses Unwashed Hands

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  1. eMerge, which demonstrated an early prototype for The
    Associated Press, said its first clean-hand scanners could
    go on sale as early as year's end to restaurants, nursing
    homes, hospitals and day-care centers. Using identification
    cards, the devices can even record which employees scrubbed
    acceptably and which ones still have dirty hands.

    edition.cnn.comcleanhand.tech
    nology.ap/index.html

  2. Mark Thorson said:

    eMerge, which demonstrated an early prototype for The
    Associated Press, said its first clean-hand scanners could
    go on sale as early as year's end to restaurants, nursing
    homes, hospitals and day-care centers. Using
    identification cards, the devices can even record which
    employees scrubbed acceptably and which ones still have
    dirty hands.

    edition.cnn.comcleanhand.te
    chnology.ap/index.html

    I was expecting an electronic nose -- analagous to random
    police checks with finger-sniffing dogs.

    Best regards, Bob

  3. On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:16:13 GMT, Mark Thorson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    eMerge, which demonstrated an early prototype for The
    Associated Press, said its first clean-hand scanners could
    go on sale as early as year's end to restaurants, nursing
    homes, hospitals and day-care centers. Using identification
    cards, the devices can even record which employees scrubbed
    acceptably and which ones still have dirty hands.

    edition.cnn.comcleanhand.tec
    hnology.ap/index.html

    It only detects fecal contamination, which may carry e-coli.
    While they're promoting it for use after employees return to
    the bathroom (since it really can't detect anything else),
    the most serious e-coli is not present in the humans
    digestive tract (otherwise we'd already be immune from it).

    So while it may detect poo (not pee, nor boogers), and may
    keep microscopic particles of poo off your burger, it will
    do nothing to prevent disease or other foreign material.

    -sw

  4. I can imagine the technology having a beneficial use in
    commercial kitchens because it provides an easy way to avoid
    a subject that no one wants to talk about.

    I am reminded of an incident I read about in The Miami
    Herald many years ago. Apparently there had been a minor
    outbreak of hepatitis in the local hospitals. The public
    health officials zoomed in to discover what the patients had
    in common that could lead them to the source of the
    outbreak. It turned out that all had eaten at a particular
    gourmet store/restaurant. The employees were tested. One
    tested positive. He was a low level worker, not a
    professional chef. It was probably a part time or summer job
    for him. He had no symptoms. He wouldn't have spread the
    disease if he'd washed his hands after wiping his ass.

    The next time I was in the store, everyone was wearing
    hairnets and plastic gloves. The place was exaggeratedly
    clean. It went out of business anyway. Nothing could erase
    the association in the public's mind.

    I'm sure the owner wished he had some way of mentioning the
    embarrassing subject. You can put a sign in the employee
    washroom reminding people to wash their hands, but some
    will ignore it. I suppose you could make little comments
    about hand washing when you see someone leaving the men's
    room, but that's no way to treat adults. You assume they
    know and hope for the best. When I owned a small catering
    business, I and the other senior staff exited the bathroom
    and then washed our hands in full view of the other
    employees at the small hand sink that the department of
    health insisted I install for that purpose. That worked.
    Since everyone including the dishwashers and delivery
    people could see us doing it, they washed their hands in
    full view also. I never had to figure out how to remind
    people in their native language or ask if they'd done so.
    It was just something we all did.

    If you installed a fancy hi-tech gadget, you could explain
    that it detects if hands are clean enough without going into
    detail about what it's detecting exactly. Using it could be
    a habit or a game.

    --Lia

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