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New review article about low-carbodydrate diets

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  1. There is a brand new review article about low-carbodydrate diets:

    Westman EC, Mavropoulos J, Yancy WS, Volek JS.
    A Review of Low-carbohydrate Ketogenic Diets.
    Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2003 Nov;5(6):476-83.
    PMID: 14525681 [PubMed - in process]
    <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14525681&dopt=Abstract>

    Unfortunately the abstract is rather brief;

    "In response to the emerging epidemic of obesity in the United
    States, a renewal of interest in alternative diets has occurred,
    especially in diets that limit carbohydrate intake. Recent research
    has demonstrated that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets can lead to
    weight loss and favorable changes in serum triglycerides and high-
    density lipoprotein cholesterol. This review summarizes the
    physiology and recent clinical studies regarding this type of diet."

    --
    Matti Narkia

  2. Matti Narkia said:

    There is a brand new review article about low-carbodydrate diets:

    Westman EC, Mavropoulos J, Yancy WS, Volek JS.
    A Review of Low-carbohydrate Ketogenic Diets.
    Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2003 Nov;5(6):476-83.
    PMID: 14525681 [PubMed - in process]
    <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14525681&dopt=Abstract>

    Unfortunately the abstract is rather brief;

    "In response to the emerging epidemic of obesity in the United
    States, a renewal of interest in alternative diets has occurred,
    especially in diets that limit carbohydrate intake. Recent research
    has demonstrated that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets can lead to
    weight loss and favorable changes in serum triglycerides and high-
    density lipoprotein cholesterol. This review summarizes the
    physiology and recent clinical studies regarding this type of diet."

    Gee, Matti, why do the authors still call LC diets "ketogenic" despite your claims that they are not?

    Perhaps you should revisit hyperketonemia and lipid peroxidation.

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

  3. On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:38:26 GMT, Matti Narkia <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Recent research
    has demonstrated that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets

    Wait a minute. Are these diets ketogenic or not? Make up your mind,
    Matti.

    http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap031018.html
    Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

  4. Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:07:47 -0400 in article
    <[email hidden]> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

    Quoted message said:
    Matti Narkia said:

    There is a brand new review article about low-carbodydrate diets:

    Westman EC, Mavropoulos J, Yancy WS, Volek JS.
    A Review of Low-carbohydrate Ketogenic Diets.
    Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2003 Nov;5(6):476-83.
    PMID: 14525681 [PubMed - in process]
    <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14525681&dopt=Abstract>

    Unfortunately the abstract is rather brief;

    "In response to the emerging epidemic of obesity in the United
    States, a renewal of interest in alternative diets has occurred,
    especially in diets that limit carbohydrate intake. Recent research
    has demonstrated that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets can lead to
    weight loss and favorable changes in serum triglycerides and high-
    density lipoprotein cholesterol. This review summarizes the
    physiology and recent clinical studies regarding this type of diet."

    Gee, Matti, why do the authors still call LC diets "ketogenic" despite your claims that they are not?


    You are not that thick, I'm sure that after so many repetitions you must
    know now by heart that even in Forster et al's study Atkins' diet was
    significantly more ketogenic than the diet of the control group _during
    the first three months_. _After three months_ no difference between the
    groups. If you once more pretend not to remember or not to understand
    this then either your intellect or your intellectual honesty is in
    serious doubt. I'd bet for the latter one any time.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  5. Matti Narkia said:

    Wed, 22 Oct 2003 12:07:47 -0400 in article
    <[email hidden]> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

    Quoted message said:
    Matti Narkia said:

    There is a brand new review article about low-carbodydrate diets:

    Westman EC, Mavropoulos J, Yancy WS, Volek JS.
    A Review of Low-carbohydrate Ketogenic Diets.
    Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2003 Nov;5(6):476-83.
    PMID: 14525681 [PubMed - in process]
    <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14525681&dopt=Abstract>

    Unfortunately the abstract is rather brief;

    "In response to the emerging epidemic of obesity in the United
    States, a renewal of interest in alternative diets has occurred,
    especially in diets that limit carbohydrate intake. Recent research
    has demonstrated that low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets can lead to
    weight loss and favorable changes in serum triglycerides and high-
    density lipoprotein cholesterol. This review summarizes the
    physiology and recent clinical studies regarding this type of diet."

    Gee, Matti, why do the authors still call LC diets "ketogenic" despite your claims that they are not?


    You are not that thick

    I'm not ... thanks to the 2PD approach. Don't have the ketogenic breath either :-)

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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