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    Full Text : Allen and Westerblad, PHYSIOLOGY: Enhanced: Lactic Acid--The
    Latest Performance-Enhancing Drug, Science 2004 305: 1112-1113
    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/305/5687/1112

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
    Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:57 AM
    Subject: Lactic Acid Paradigm Shift

    Quoted message said:

    On NPR Friday there was an in depth science story which was of monumental
    importance to exercise physiology. Published in Science. I haven't read


    it

    Quoted message said:

    yet, but basically, it goes like this:

    Conventional thinking is that lactic acid is something bad...which


    degrades

    Quoted message said:

    muscle performance. Lactic acid forms when there is so much sugar


    metabolism

    Quoted message said:

    that the mitochondria of the cells can't handle it. Glucose is degraded


    to

    Quoted message said:

    pyruvate to make ATP to power the muscle contraction. The pyruvate then


    enters

    Quoted message said:

    the mitochondria to go into the Krebs cycle to make still more ATP. But


    when

    Quoted message said:

    pyruvate is produced so fast that it can't be processed by the


    mitochondria, it

    Quoted message said:

    gets converted to lactic acid, which is either stored in the muscle cell


    or

    Quoted message said:

    washed away into the blood stream. Lactic acid is a temporary storage


    form of

    Quoted message said:

    potential energy. Once the mitochondria have caught up, lactic acid can


    be

    Quoted message said:

    metabolized in the mitochondria to produce ATP to power muscles. In fact,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    preferred energy source for cardiac muscle is lactic acid, although all


    muscles

    Quoted message said:

    can "burn" it to produce ATP.

    But the "problem" is that lactic acid lowers the pH of the muscle cells.
    Conventional wisdom is that this is bad and that the falling pH is


    responsible

    Quoted message said:

    for "poisoning" muscle contraction. So this has led to all sorts of


    theories

    Quoted message said:

    about training improving the "buffer capacity" of muscle cells (you can


    read

    Quoted message said:

    about this everywhere, including in Maglischo). And it has led to all


    sorts of

    Quoted message said:

    nutritional supplements to imrpove buffering to reduce the fall in pH,


    notably

    Quoted message said:

    sodium bicarbonate.

    Turns out this is all wrong. Lactic acid and the lower pH actually helps


    keep

    Quoted message said:

    the muscles working during periods of fatigue. The real culprits in


    causing

    Quoted message said:

    fatiguing muscle to stop working are potassium and phosphate. The lower


    pH

    Quoted message said:

    helps the muscle cells continue to work in the presence of the altered
    potassium and phosphate concentrations.

    This actually makes sense, teleologically speaking. Generally, when the


    body

    Quoted message said:

    does something, it does it for a purpose. Why should humans evolve to


    produce

    Quoted message said:

    a toxin which causes muscle to shut down? It makes much more sense that


    lactic

    Quoted message said:

    acid helps the muscle fibers to compensate for ionic imbalances which


    occur

    Quoted message said:

    during extreme exercise. So, actually, the athlete would be, at least in
    theory, better served by INCREASING lactate concentration, rather than
    decreasing it. Yogurt is a very good source of lactic acid. I'm going to
    start experimenting with "yogurt loading" right before I swim (I'm really


    good

    Quoted message said:

    at exercising with food in my stomach).

    The lactic acid may still be the culprit in one thing...that being the


    muscle

    Quoted message said:

    "burn." The lactic acid, when it leaks out of the local muscle cells in


    high

    Quoted message said:

    concentrations, my activate sensory nerve receptors which are sensitive to
    changes in pH. Again, it makes teleological sense for the body to have an
    "early warning" system for work overload. The lactic acid "burn" is a


    signal

    Quoted message said:

    to slow down.

    So lactic acid is not a villain, but rather a hero. Triple threat.


    Storage

    Quoted message said:

    form of energy. Lowers pH to allow muscle cells to continue to function


    with

    Quoted message said:

    altered potassium and phosphate levels. Warns body that there is


    impending

    Quoted message said:

    overload.

    There's probably a commercial opportunity in this. From "Power Yogurt" to


    "I

    Quoted message said:

    [heart] lactate" T shirts.

    - Larry

  2. could you email me the article it the science web site requires a account be
    setup.

    Thanks,

    "Bob Schroedter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    from a post on another newsgroup...

    Full Text : Allen and Westerblad, PHYSIOLOGY: Enhanced: Lactic Acid--The
    Latest Performance-Enhancing Drug, Science 2004 305: 1112-1113
    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/305/5687/1112

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
    Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:57 AM
    Subject: Lactic Acid Paradigm Shift

    Quoted message said:

    On NPR Friday there was an in depth science story which was of


    monumental

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    importance to exercise physiology. Published in Science. I haven't


    read

    Quoted message said:

    it

    Quoted message said:

    yet, but basically, it goes like this:

    Conventional thinking is that lactic acid is something bad...which


    degrades

    Quoted message said:

    muscle performance. Lactic acid forms when there is so much sugar


    metabolism

    Quoted message said:

    that the mitochondria of the cells can't handle it. Glucose is degraded


    to

    Quoted message said:

    pyruvate to make ATP to power the muscle contraction. The pyruvate then


    enters

    Quoted message said:

    the mitochondria to go into the Krebs cycle to make still more ATP. But


    when

    Quoted message said:

    pyruvate is produced so fast that it can't be processed by the


    mitochondria, it

    Quoted message said:

    gets converted to lactic acid, which is either stored in the muscle cell


    or

    Quoted message said:

    washed away into the blood stream. Lactic acid is a temporary storage


    form of

    Quoted message said:

    potential energy. Once the mitochondria have caught up, lactic acid can


    be

    Quoted message said:

    metabolized in the mitochondria to produce ATP to power muscles. In


    fact,

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    preferred energy source for cardiac muscle is lactic acid, although all


    muscles

    Quoted message said:

    can "burn" it to produce ATP.

    But the "problem" is that lactic acid lowers the pH of the muscle cells.
    Conventional wisdom is that this is bad and that the falling pH is


    responsible

    Quoted message said:

    for "poisoning" muscle contraction. So this has led to all sorts of


    theories

    Quoted message said:

    about training improving the "buffer capacity" of muscle cells (you can


    read

    Quoted message said:

    about this everywhere, including in Maglischo). And it has led to all


    sorts of

    Quoted message said:

    nutritional supplements to imrpove buffering to reduce the fall in pH,


    notably

    Quoted message said:

    sodium bicarbonate.

    Turns out this is all wrong. Lactic acid and the lower pH actually


    helps

    Quoted message said:

    keep

    Quoted message said:

    the muscles working during periods of fatigue. The real culprits in


    causing

    Quoted message said:

    fatiguing muscle to stop working are potassium and phosphate. The lower


    pH

    Quoted message said:

    helps the muscle cells continue to work in the presence of the altered
    potassium and phosphate concentrations.

    This actually makes sense, teleologically speaking. Generally, when the


    body

    Quoted message said:

    does something, it does it for a purpose. Why should humans evolve to


    produce

    Quoted message said:

    a toxin which causes muscle to shut down? It makes much more sense that


    lactic

    Quoted message said:

    acid helps the muscle fibers to compensate for ionic imbalances which


    occur

    Quoted message said:

    during extreme exercise. So, actually, the athlete would be, at least


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    theory, better served by INCREASING lactate concentration, rather than
    decreasing it. Yogurt is a very good source of lactic acid. I'm going


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    start experimenting with "yogurt loading" right before I swim (I'm


    really

    Quoted message said:

    good

    Quoted message said:

    at exercising with food in my stomach).

    The lactic acid may still be the culprit in one thing...that being the


    muscle

    Quoted message said:

    "burn." The lactic acid, when it leaks out of the local muscle cells in


    high

    Quoted message said:

    concentrations, my activate sensory nerve receptors which are sensitive


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    changes in pH. Again, it makes teleological sense for the body to have


    an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "early warning" system for work overload. The lactic acid "burn" is a


    signal

    Quoted message said:

    to slow down.

    So lactic acid is not a villain, but rather a hero. Triple threat.


    Storage

    Quoted message said:

    form of energy. Lowers pH to allow muscle cells to continue to function


    with

    Quoted message said:

    altered potassium and phosphate levels. Warns body that there is


    impending

    Quoted message said:

    overload.

    There's probably a commercial opportunity in this. From "Power Yogurt"


    to

    Quoted message said:

    "I

    Quoted message said:

    [heart] lactate" T shirts.

    - Larry

  3. PHYSIOLOGY
    Lactic Acid The Latest
    Performance-Enhancing Drug
    David Allen and Hákan Westerblad

    The 2004 Athens Olympics will undoubtedly see many records broken.
    Improved performances will be attributed to better training, superior
    genes, or the use of performance-enhancing drugs, both legal and
    illegal. From a physiological perspective, one of the major limits to
    improved performance is the decline in muscle function as muscles are
    used intensively and repeatedly—a phenomenon called muscle fatigue.
    Many of the approaches used by athletes to enhance their performance,
    such as creatine supplementation, carbohydrate loading, and training
    at high altitude, are targeted at the various pathways that
    con-tribute to muscle fatigue. For many athletes, coaches, and sports
    commentators, muscle fatigue and the accumulation of lactic acid
    (generated from the anaerobic breakdown of glycogen) are more or less
    synonymous. However, the importance of lactic acid in muscle fatigue
    is now under scrutiny (1): On page 1144 of this issue, Pedersen et al.
    (2) present a further challenge to the traditional view with their
    demonstration that lactic acid, in fact, has beneficial effects on the
    performance of fatigued muscles. They show in rat muscle fiber
    preparations that lactic acid influences the activity of chloride ion
    (Cl-) channels, which in turn sustains the action potentials that are
    necessary for muscle contraction.
    It was A. V. Hill in 1929 who proposed that the accumulation of lactic
    acid in muscles contributes to muscle fatigue (3). Using preparations
    of isolated frog muscle removed from solution and kept in nitrogen,
    Hill showed that, following electrical stimulation, mechanical
    performance gradually declined as the muscle accumulated large amounts
    of lactic acid. However, if the muscle preparation was transferred to
    a saline solution equilibrated with nitrogen, which enabled the
    lac-tic acid to diffuse away, muscle performance improved. Such
    experiments, and their equivalents in mammalian muscle, suggested that
    accumulation of intracellular lactic acid
    might be a principal cause of muscle fatigue. The theoretical basis
    for this idea was provided by Fabiato (4), who showed that increased
    intracellular acidification (acidosis) of muscle due to accumulation
    of lactic acid blocked force production by the muscle's contractile
    proteins.
    Doubts about the importance of lactic acid in muscle fatigue, however,
    have accrued since these early studies. For in-stance, humans
    deficient in the enzyme myophosphorylase are unable to break down
    glycogen or accumulate lactic acid, but their muscles fatigue more
    rapidly than normal (5). The direct depressant effect of acidosis on
    contractile proteins, clearly evident at or below room temperature, is
    greatly reduced at body temperature (6). Work on single muscle fibers
    has shown that when muscle cells are intentionally rendered acidic,
    the rate of fatigue remains unchanged (7).
    It was Nielsen and his colleagues who ushered in a new phase in our
    understanding of the effects of muscle acidosis (8). They argued that
    the accumulation of extracellular potassium ions (K+) is a key
    component of muscle fatigue and showed that force in an isolated
    muscle declined steeply when the K+ concentration in-creased.
    Importantly, if the muscle was rendered acidic, much of the decline in
    force was reversed and was accompanied by recovery of action potential
    generation.
    In the new study, Pedersen et al. (2) take this observation a step
    further using a preparation of "skinned" single muscle fibers from the
    rat. In their preparation, the surface membrane of the muscle fiber is
    removed (mechanical skinning), but the internal network of tubules in
    the fiber (T-
    tubules) seals over and retains its function-al connection to the
    sarcoplasmic reticulum. This intriguing preparation can be activated
    in various ways. Crucially for these experiments, electrical
    stimulation generates action potentials in the sealed T-tubules and
    causes normal release of calcium ions (Caz+) from the sarcoplasmic
    reticulum, resulting in muscle contraction.
    The investigators noted that when action potentials stimulated Cat+
    release, mild de-polarization of the T-tubules caused a large
    reduction in contractile force but, as Neilsen et al. found (8), this
    effect could be partially re-versed by acidosis. Their key observation
    is that this effect could be eliminated by removing Cl- from the
    solution bathing the muscle preparation, suggesting that acidosis
    exerts a beneficial effect on Cl- channel activity. A central feature
    of the new mechanism is that the accumulation'of extracellular K+
    results in action potentials becoming a less effective trigger of Caz+
    release in working muscles. Acidosis reduces this effect by decreasing
    the contribution of Cl- channels, which act to clamp the membrane
    potential near the chloride reversal potential. Because the chloride
    reversal potential is near the resting membrane potential, the effect
    of Clchannel activity is to increase the amount of sodium ion (Na+)
    current necessary to generate an action potential, which then triggers
    Cat+ release. This mechanism will only operate under conditions in
    which the amplitude of the action potential has be-come a
    rate-limiting step for muscle activity. Unfortunately, it is not easy
    to establish whether this is the case in different types of muscle
    fatigue.
    The Pedersen et al. findings add to the complexity of the contribution
    of intracellular and extracellular acidosis to muscle performance.
    Generated by the anaerobic breakdown of glycogen, lactic acid is, from
    the standpoint of active muscle, an inefficient way to produce ATP. An
    increase in intracellular acidosis will affect the function of many
    intracellular proteins besides contractile proteins, but we do not yet
    know which of these are important for muscle contraction. Lactic acid
    is ferried out of muscle cells by lactate transporter proteins,
    creating an extracellular acidosis, which probably contributes to the
    painful sensations of muscle fatigue experienced by athletes. Once in
    the circulation, lactate
    can be metabolized by other tissues and may be involved in the
    regulation of the respiratory and circulatory systems.
    Fatigue has many sources that may be present at different sites in
    muscle cells. Many constituents of muscle metabolism (lactic acid,
    glycogen, phosphocreatine, in-organic phosphate, ATP, Cat+, Na+, K+)
    change during fatigue and, for each of these, we need to know which
    proteins are affected and how these proteins regulate muscle
    contraction. Equally important is the effect of multiple cellular
    changes on muscle activity in the intact animal. Athletes and trainers
    who keep abreast of these issues may potentially be able to modify
    aspects of their training or performance in ways that give them a
    competitive edge.

    References
    1. H. Westerblad et aL, News Physiol Sci. 17, 17 (2002).
    2. T. H. Pedersen et at., Science 305, 1144 (2004).
    3. A. V. Hill, P. Kupalov, Proc. R. Soc. London Ser. B 105,
    313 (1929).
    4. A. Fabiato, F. Fabiato, J. Physiol (London) 276, 233 (1978).
    5. E. B. Cady et aL, J. Physiol (London) 418, 311 (1989).
    6. E. Pate et aL, J. Physiol. (London) 486, 689 (1995).
    7. J. D. Bruton et aL, J. Appl. Physiol. 85, 478 (1998).
    8. O. B. Nielsen et al, J. PhysioL 536, 161 (2001).

    1112-1113 20 AUGUST 2004 VOL 305 SCIENCE www.sciencemag.org

    D. Allen is at the Institute of Biomedical Research, University of
    Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia. H. Westerblad is at the Karolinska
    Institute, S-171 77 Stockholm, Sweden. E-mail: [email hidden].
    edu.au, [email hidden]

    "Tom DiMauro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    could you email me the article it the science web site requires a account be
    setup.

    Thanks,

    "Bob Schroedter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    from a post on another newsgroup...

    Full Text : Allen and Westerblad, PHYSIOLOGY: Enhanced: Lactic Acid--The
    Latest Performance-Enhancing Drug, Science 2004 305: 1112-1113
    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/305/5687/1112

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Larry Weisenthal" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: rec.sport.swimming
    Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:57 AM
    Subject: Lactic Acid Paradigm Shift

    Quoted message said:

    On NPR Friday there was an in depth science story which was of


    monumental

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    importance to exercise physiology. Published in Science. I haven't


    read
    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    yet, but basically, it goes like this:

    Conventional thinking is that lactic acid is something bad...which


    degrades

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    muscle performance. Lactic acid forms when there is so much sugar


    metabolism

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that the mitochondria of the cells can't handle it. Glucose is degraded


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pyruvate to make ATP to power the muscle contraction. The pyruvate then


    enters

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the mitochondria to go into the Krebs cycle to make still more ATP. But


    when

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pyruvate is produced so fast that it can't be processed by the


    mitochondria, it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    gets converted to lactic acid, which is either stored in the muscle cell


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    washed away into the blood stream. Lactic acid is a temporary storage


    form of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    potential energy. Once the mitochondria have caught up, lactic acid can


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    metabolized in the mitochondria to produce ATP to power muscles. In


    fact,
    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    preferred energy source for cardiac muscle is lactic acid, although all


    muscles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can "burn" it to produce ATP.

    But the "problem" is that lactic acid lowers the pH of the muscle cells.
    Conventional wisdom is that this is bad and that the falling pH is


    responsible

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for "poisoning" muscle contraction. So this has led to all sorts of


    theories

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about training improving the "buffer capacity" of muscle cells (you can


    read

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about this everywhere, including in Maglischo). And it has led to all


    sorts of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nutritional supplements to imrpove buffering to reduce the fall in pH,


    notably

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sodium bicarbonate.

    Turns out this is all wrong. Lactic acid and the lower pH actually


    helps
    keep

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the muscles working during periods of fatigue. The real culprits in


    causing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fatiguing muscle to stop working are potassium and phosphate. The lower


    pH

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    helps the muscle cells continue to work in the presence of the altered
    potassium and phosphate concentrations.

    This actually makes sense, teleologically speaking. Generally, when the


    body

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    does something, it does it for a purpose. Why should humans evolve to


    produce

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a toxin which causes muscle to shut down? It makes much more sense that


    lactic

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    acid helps the muscle fibers to compensate for ionic imbalances which


    occur

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    during extreme exercise. So, actually, the athlete would be, at least


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    theory, better served by INCREASING lactate concentration, rather than
    decreasing it. Yogurt is a very good source of lactic acid. I'm going


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    start experimenting with "yogurt loading" right before I swim (I'm


    really
    good

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at exercising with food in my stomach).

    The lactic acid may still be the culprit in one thing...that being the


    muscle

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "burn." The lactic acid, when it leaks out of the local muscle cells in


    high

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    concentrations, my activate sensory nerve receptors which are sensitive


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    changes in pH. Again, it makes teleological sense for the body to have


    an

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "early warning" system for work overload. The lactic acid "burn" is a


    signal

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to slow down.

    So lactic acid is not a villain, but rather a hero. Triple threat.


    Storage

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    form of energy. Lowers pH to allow muscle cells to continue to function


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    altered potassium and phosphate levels. Warns body that there is


    impending

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    overload.

    There's probably a commercial opportunity in this. From "Power Yogurt"


    to
    "I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [heart] lactate" T shirts.

    - Larry

  4. Lactic acid has never been poison in the pure sense of the word
    Trained properly you can fuel with it.

    The article is not revolutionary!

    "Tom DiMauro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    could you email me the article it the science web site requires a account be
    setup.

    Thanks,

    "Bob Schroedter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    from a post on another newsgroup...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


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  5. The article makes that point exactly. The research has been around for a
    while but the winds of change are slow in some fitness and healthcare
    circles.

    "Kenneth Burres" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lactic acid has never been poison in the pure sense of the word
    Trained properly you can fuel with it.

    The article is not revolutionary!

    "Tom DiMauro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    could you email me the article it the science web site requires a


    account be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    setup.

    Thanks,

    "Bob Schroedter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    from a post on another newsgroup...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


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