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  1. "From The Center for Genetics, Nutrition and Health, Washington, DC.

    Human beings evolved consuming a diet that contained about equal
    amounts of n-3 and n-6 essential fatty acids. Over the past
    100-150 y there has been an enormous increase in the consumption
    of n-6 fatty acids due to the increased intake of vegetable oils
    from corn, sunflower seeds, safflower seeds, cottonseed, and
    soybeans. Today, in Western diets, the ratio of n-6 to n-3 fatty
    acids ranges from {approx}20-30:1 instead of the traditional
    range of 1-2:1."

    I have two major concerns with these statements.

    First, the time scale. I'm old enough to well remember when lard,
    suet and butter were replaced in Canada by margarines and
    vegetable oils, and it was no 100-150 years ago, it was less than
    60. For years after the introduction of margarine, the dairy
    lobby made sure that it was illegal to sell any margarine here
    unless it was yucky-looking white. (Later, it became legal to
    include a dye packet. Margarines instantly became soft and were
    packed in plastic bags so that all you had to do to have butter-
    coloured margarine was to knead the unopened package.) I don't
    remember when pre-coloured margarine became legal because I
    couldn't stand the smell of early margarines, so always used
    butter until I moved to Ottawa, where the large Italian
    population ensured that fine olive oils were available.

    Second, the reference population for 'traditional'. My mother's
    family lived since 1818 over 100 miles from any significant fish-
    bearing water. And, with transportation by farm horse and wagon
    and with no refrigeration other than river ice, their consumption
    of seafood was mighty close to zero. (No, they didn't use salted
    fish - my mother never heard of it and my grandmother's recipe
    box contains not a single mention of it.) They didn't grow flax,
    they couldn't grow olives with the climate, so almost all their
    lipids came from corn (maize), wheat, or grass-eating meat.
    Before that, her family (including most of her in-laws) came from
    the Alston Moor in England (see http://sankey.ws/wallacea.html),
    where the diet would have been very similar for longer than we
    have recorded history there, except that the primary grain would
    have been barley. I don't believe they could have had anything
    remotely close to an n6:n3 ratio of 2:1.

    Personally, I aim for a maximum ratio of 4:1 and achieve it
    easily, given the plentitude of fine fish resulting from air
    transport and freezing (cf. http://sankey.ws/dietref.html). But,
    I'm very uncomfortable with the claims made for 2:1, let alone
    1:1, for my effective ancestry.

  2. On 9 Jul 2005 17:30:32 GMT, John Sankey wrote in
    <news:[email hidden]> on sci.med.nutrition :

    Quoted message said:

    "From The Center for Genetics, Nutrition and Health, Washington, DC.

    Human beings evolved consuming a diet that contained about equal
    amounts of n-3 and n-6 essential fatty acids. Over the past
    100-150 y there has been an enormous increase in the consumption
    of n-6 fatty acids due to the increased intake of vegetable oils
    from corn, sunflower seeds, safflower seeds, cottonseed, and
    soybeans. Today, in Western diets, the ratio of n-6 to n-3 fatty
    acids ranges from {approx}20-30:1 instead of the traditional
    range of 1-2:1."

    I have two major concerns with these statements.

    First, the time scale. I'm old enough to well remember when lard,
    suet and butter were replaced in Canada by margarines and
    vegetable oils, and it was no 100-150 years ago, it was less than
    60. For years after the introduction of margarine, the dairy
    lobby made sure that it was illegal to sell any margarine here
    unless it was yucky-looking white. (Later, it became legal to
    include a dye packet. Margarines instantly became soft and were
    packed in plastic bags so that all you had to do to have butter-
    coloured margarine was to knead the unopened package.) I don't
    remember when pre-coloured margarine became legal because I
    couldn't stand the smell of early margarines, so always used
    butter until I moved to Ottawa, where the large Italian
    population ensured that fine olive oils were available.

    Second, the reference population for 'traditional'. My mother's
    family lived since 1818 over 100 miles from any significant fish-
    bearing water. And, with transportation by farm horse and wagon
    and with no refrigeration other than river ice, their consumption
    of seafood was mighty close to zero. (No, they didn't use salted
    fish - my mother never heard of it and my grandmother's recipe
    box contains not a single mention of it.) They didn't grow flax,
    they couldn't grow olives with the climate, so almost all their
    lipids came from corn (maize), wheat, or grass-eating meat.
    Before that, her family (including most of her in-laws) came from
    the Alston Moor in England (see http://sankey.ws/wallacea.html),
    where the diet would have been very similar for longer than we
    have recorded history there, except that the primary grain would
    have been barley. I don't believe they could have had anything
    remotely close to an n6:n3 ratio of 2:1.

    Personally, I aim for a maximum ratio of 4:1 and achieve it
    easily, given the plentitude of fine fish resulting from air
    transport and freezing (cf. http://sankey.ws/dietref.html). But,
    I'm very uncomfortable with the claims made for 2:1, let alone
    1:1, for my effective ancestry.

    Actually it's not clear what they mean with "traditionally".

    Here's another interesting bit about the n6:n3 ratio in history.

    http://www.st-hs.com/TMA_Forum/PUFA%20-%20Calvani%20Benatti%20-%20Feb%202K3.pdf

    Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids (PUFA)
    CALVANI M. AND BENATTI P.

    sigma-tau S.p.A. - Scientific Department
    28.02.03

    [...]

    4. EVOLUTIONARY ASPECTS OF DIET
    Studies of hunter-gatherer societies indicates that man evolved on a diet
    that was low in
    saturated fat and the amounts of n-3 and n-6 fatty acids was quite equal.
    Over the past 10000 years with the development of agriculture, changes
    began to take
    place in the food supply, especially during the last 100-150 years, that
    lead to increases in
    saturated fat from grain-fed cattle; increases in trans-fatty acids from
    the hydrogenation of
    vegetable oils; and enormous increase in n-6 fatty acids (about 30 g/day)
    due to the production of
    oils from vegetable seeds such as corn, safflower, and cotton (Fig. 4) (4).

    FIGURE 4. SCHEME OF THE RELATIVE PERCENTAGES OF DIFFERENT DIETARY FATTY
    ACIDS AND POSSIBLE
    CHANGES SUBSEQUENT TO INDUSTRIAL FOOD PROCESSING, INVOLVING ANIMAL
    HUSBANDRY AND
    HYDROGENATION OF FATTY ACIDS.

    Increases in meat consumption have lead to increased amounts of arachidonic
    acid (C20:4
    n-6, AA), about 0.2-1.0 mg/day (5), whereas the amount of LNA is only 2.92
    g/day (6) and
    amounts of EPA, DHA are 48 and 72 mg/day, respectively. Thus a relative and
    absolute decrease
    in the amount of n-3 fatty acids has lead to an imbalance and increase in
    the ratio of n-6/n-3.
    Intake of n-3 fatty acids is much lower today because of the decrease of
    fish consumption
    and the industrial production of animal feeds rich in grains containing n-6
    fatty acids, leading to
    production of meat reach in n-6 and poor in n-3 fatty acids. The same is
    true for cultured fish and
    eggs (7; 8). Even cultivated vegetables contain fewer n-3 fatty acids than
    do plants in the wild
    (9). In today¢s diet this ratio is 20-30/1, whereas at the time when the
    human genetic code was
    established in response to diet, it was 1-4/1.
    The ratio of n-6/n-3 in various populations, is reported in the following
    table (Tab. 1).

    TABLE 1. RATIOS OF N-6 TO N-3 FATTY ACIDS IN VARIOUS POULATIONS
    POPULATION n-6/n-3 Ref.

    Paleolithic 0.79

    Greece before 1960 1.00-2.00

    Current Greece 1.10-2.10

    Current United States 16.74

    Current United Kingdom and Northern Europe 15.00

    Current Japan 4.00

    BIBLIOGRAPHY
    [...]
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    1987; 45:1048-53.
    5. Phinney SD, Odin RS, Johnson SB et al. Reduced arachidonate in serum
    phospholipids and cholesteryl esters
    associated with vegetarian diet in humans. Am J Clin Nutr 1990; 51:385-92.
    6. Raper NR, Cronin FJ, Exler J. Omega-3 fatty acid content of the US food
    supply. Am J Coll Nutr 1992; 11:304-8.
    7. Van Vliet T, Katan MB. Lower ratio of n-3 to n-6 fatty acids in cultured
    than in wild fish. Am J Clin Nutr 1990;
    51:1-2.
    8. Simopoulos AP, Salem N Jr. n-3 fatty acids in eggs from range-fed Greek
    Chickens. N Engl J Med 1989;
    321:1412.
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    10. Eaton SB, Eaton SB III, Sinclair Aj et al. Dietary intake of long-chain
    polyunsaturated fatty acids during the
    paleolithic World Rev Nutr 1998; 83:12-23.
    11. Simopoulos AP. Overview of evolutionary aspects of omega-3 fatty acids
    in the diet. World Rev Nutr 1998;
    83:1-11.
    12. Simopoulos AP. The Mediterranean diet: what is so special about the
    diet of Greece? The scientific evidence. J
    Nutr 2001; 131:3065S-73S.
    13. Sanders TAB. Polyunsaturated fatty acids in food chain in Europe. Am J
    Clin Nutr 2000; 71(suppl):S176-S8.
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    71(suppl):S189-S96.

    [...]

  3. Yes, it's total BS, but they are right about one thing, that the omega
    3 to 6 ratio was much closer to being balanced. What they fail to
    mention is that consumption of omega 3s and 6s in total was very low,
    and thus this fact matters little, if at all. Early humans lived on
    coconuts and palm as easy, nutritious, calorie-dense, tasty, safe, and
    healthy dietary staple products. There was no canola oil, even though
    idiot "experts" tell us that Okinawans who are well over a hundred
    years old now, owe it all to canola oil. Canola oil is one of the
    worst oils you can use. If only people could do the Rancimat
    experiments for themselves and see how easily this stuff starts off
    dangerous free radical reactions there would be no need for debate. How
    is it that hundreds of millions of Asians can consume huge amounts of
    coconut, which is much more saturated than even lard (92% to 39%
    saturated) and yet have hardly any "chronic disease?" It's all about
    the free radical damage. You can go to the WHO web site and see the
    statistics for yourself. When I did, I was amazed by it, but also by
    the high rates of cancer and heart disease in nations like Italy, even
    though the "experts" are fawning over the great "tradtional
    Mediterranean diet." Here again, rates of "chronic disease" rise as
    people switch over to the highly unsaturated oils, such as corn,
    canola, vegetable, safflower, sunflower, etc., and as traditional fat
    sources are either abandoned or have their antioxdiants refined out of
    them (which is the case for much of the olive oil being sold today).

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