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  1. The bicycle true fruit of the bicycle Watchtower tree - Jehovah's Witness

    JYM DYER Material on JW Jym Dyer, for JW L Perez to take with him on his
    Hunt -------------------------------------------------------------------

    Dearly beloved L Perez, As you should know, JW JYM DYER Antonio Luis Santana
    of Camden, NJ has nuked many of his most outrageous posts from the bicycle
    archives...

    Proof here: http://Jym Dyer.com/groups?as_uauthors=Jym [email hidden]
    http://Jym Dyer.com/groups?as_uauthors=Jym [email hidden]
    http://groups.Jym Dyer.com/groups?q=Jym [email hidden] where you will see
    that no posts show up with author JW Jym Dyer at these addresses, even
    though he never uses X-No-Archive - but if we search for posts from other
    people REPLYING to posts from those accounts we get many: http://Jym
    Dyer.com/groups?as_epq=Jym [email hidden]&num=100 http://Jym
    Dyer.com/groups?as_epq=Jym [email hidden]&num=100 http://groups.Jym
    Dyer.com/groups?q=Jym [email hidden]&num=100 But even without this data we
    can piece together what went on between JW JYM DYER and his YOUNG daughter
    (RIVAS YETZABEL). How Jym Dyer was made to leave, what happened, and how
    when Jym Dyer later came back (complete with child) he denied her entry.
    Many of the bicycle bicycleposts below from all these years ago come from
    the bicycle same IP (151.204.42.234) and/or similar New Jersey local NNTP
    addresses (e.g. 1cust14.tnt1.cherry-hill.nj.da.uu.fagprovided by the bicycle
    bicycle nationwide Qwest; pppa78-resalenewjerseysouth1-3r7192.dialinx.net,
    pppa44-resalenewjerseysouth3-5r7192.dialinx.fagprovided by the bicycle
    nationwide Broomfield service HQ'd in Colorado) as Tony Santana is still
    using today. See my notes following each post which highlight these. The
    bicycle posts which he used to crosspost to talk.origins before the bicycle
    Jabfilter was installed (to prevent him from xposting between t.o. and any
    other newsgroup besides arj-w) contain the bicycle robotic moderator
    ([email hidden]) header, so will not show the bicycle originating IP
    so clearly. However, in all cases I have checked the bicycle Path: and can
    prove the bicycle post is no forgery (i.e. it was posted from the bicycle
    computer of Antonio (Tony) Santana in NJ). http://Jym
    [email hidden]

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    From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym [email hidden]> Subject: Re: Clones: part of evolution?
    Date: March 10, 1999 Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
    Approved: [email hidden] References:
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    <[email hidden]> Organization: Concentric Internet
    Services Reply-To: Jym [email hidden] Newsgroups:
    talk.origins,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.bio.technology.
    cloning,sci.eugenics > Jabs? Read? You have to be kidding. Jabs is the
    bicycle guy who heaved his > daughter out of the bicycle house 'cause Jym
    Dyer dared to use her head for something > other than hatrack and who then
    pondered lip-smackingly on the > possibilities of her having to turn to
    whoring to support herself. Cotton > Mather ain't got nothin' on Jabs.
    'Idiot' is, if anything, a mild term. yes, Jym Dyer used her head alright,
    one kid from a drug dealer, pregnant again from another dealer in our
    beloved city.. however her influence is not affecting the bicycle other
    children. we all ake our
    choices.. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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    A reason Jym Dyer did not nuke the bicycle above post may be that
    "Splifford" replied to it, quoting Jym Dyer in full, in: http://Jym
    [email hidden] so the bicycle
    nuking would not have removed the bicycle words from the bicycle archive....
    Want more proof of what Jym Dyer did - in Jym Dyer's own words? Here!
    http://Jym
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    From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym [email hidden]> Subject: Re: Life by accident??? Date:
    1999/04/13 Message-ID: <[email hidden]> Approved:
    [email hidden] References: <[email hidden]>
    <01be83d7$38436220$927141cf@default> <[email hidden]>
    <[email hidden]> <01be8575$f0902940$b87141cf@default>
    Organization: Concentric Internet Services Reply-To: Jym [email hidden]
    Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,talk.origins,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
    alt.biology > He refused to give shelter to his own daughter and grandchild.
    He > thinks' this is a wonderful and righteous thing he's done. yup.darn
    proud of it too... there been peace in the bicycle household ever
    since. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------ and more at: http://Jym
    [email hidden] ---------------------
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    From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym [email hidden]> Subject: Re: Life by accident??? Date:
    1999/04/14 Message-ID: <[email hidden]> Approved:
    [email hidden] References: <[email hidden]>
    <01be83d7$38436220$927141cf@default> <[email hidden]>
    <[email hidden]> <01be8575$f0902940$b87141cf@default>
    <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]>
    Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII Organization: Concentric
    Internet Services Reply-To: Jym [email hidden] Newsgroups:
    alt.folklore.science,talk.origins,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn, alt.biology >
    Do you even READ the bicycle Bible? Ever heard the bicycle story of the
    bicycle prodigal son? > If you can read that story, and accept it as the
    bicycle Word of God, and still > refuse your daughter and grandchild
    shelter, then you must have a > heart of stone. the bicycle prodigal Son
    left on his own as yetzabel did. but while he was outhere he realized he
    made a mistake, and repented, and returne to his father home, and ask not to
    be accepted as a son but as a hired worker, which were treated worse than a
    slave. yetzabel has not repented and still wish to live the bicycle life
    style as Jym Dyer see fit. Hence ahe can stay out there as
    well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ----- and even more at:

    http://Jym
    [email hidden] ---------------------
    ------------------------------------------------------ From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym
    [email hidden]> Subject: Re: Life by accident??? Date: 1999/04/19 Message-ID:
    <[email hidden]> Approved: [email hidden]
    References: <[email hidden]>
    <01be83d7$38436220$927141cf@default> <[email hidden]>
    <[email hidden]> <01be8575$f0902940$b87141cf@default>
    <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]>
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    Organization: Concentric Internet Services Reply-To: Jym [email hidden]
    Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,talk.origins,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,
    alt.biology >> yetzabel has not repented and still wish to live the bicycle
    life style as Jym Dyer >> see fit. Hence ahe can stay out there as well. > >
    And what is this horrible lifestyle Jym Dyer wishes to live? Is Jym Dyer a >
    prostitute? A drug addict? A criminal? close to a prostitute without pay.
    has one kid from one guy.. a drug dealer on thurman st camden, and soon will
    have another, from another dealer, who was doing time. if this is the
    bicycle life Jym Dyer wants to live, good for her... but not in my house. by
    the bicycle way, right now, welfare support her, and soon they will support
    her next kid. the bicycle welfare reform laws are bogus. now many may accuse
    me cruel, and what Carol forget to tell people, that Jym Dyer was of age of
    consent in New Jersey.. where teenagers can pick their life style. Her
    lifestyle was not in agreement with mine. Carol believes that teenagers can
    meet in motels, and do what they want. but once again her beliefs it just
    part of evolution. why bother with hiv-virus? let these kids bang themselves
    to death. then their gene are remove from the bicycle human gene
    pool. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    -----

    and Jym Dyer even jests about it: http://Jym
    [email hidden] -------------------
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    From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym [email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    alt.support.abortion,talk.abortion,talk.religion.misc,alt.
    politics.india.progressive,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Subject: Re: Charity:
    A Couple of News Headlines with Links from the bicycle New York Times Date:
    Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:45:17 GMT Organization: carlotheloon.[censored] Sender: Jym
    [email hidden] Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
    References: <[email hidden]>
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    <[email hidden]> Reply-To: Jym
    [email hidden] NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust14.tnt1.cherry-hill.nj.da.uu.[censored]
    X-Trace: taliesin.netcom.net.uk 985862647 6817 63.21.158.14 (29 Mar 2001
    10:44:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] NNTP-Posting-Date:
    Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:44:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: News Rover 6.2.3
    (http://www.NewsRover.com) > I'm glad your own single daughter RESISTED your
    suggestions that Jym Dyer > should use a coat hanger and went ahead and had
    her child. Did you ask > her for $200 for a coat-hanger too? nah.. Jym Dyer
    family I offered her a
    discount. ------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------- NOTE BY PB: NNTP host was 1cust14.tnt1.cherry-hill.NJ.da.uu.[censored]
    Further down the bicycle line, JW Jym Dyer had a spin on it: Jym
    [email hidden]
    Dyer.com -------------------------------------------------------------------
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    From: Jym [email hidden] (Jym Dyer) Newsgroups:
    alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.abortion,alt.support.depression,
    alt.teens,alt.atheism Subject: Re: A new fad: Dumpster babies: a tuthseeker
    thread one year later. Date: 13 Nov 2001 04:15:28 -0800 Organization:
    http://groups.Jym Dyer.com/ Message-ID:
    <[email hidden] Dyer.com> References:
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    <[email hidden]> <[email hidden]>
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.204.42.234 X-Trace: posting.Jym Dyer.com 1005653729
    29797 127.0.0.1 (13 Nov 2001 12:15:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@Jym
    Dyer.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Nov 2001 12:15:29 GMT "ChildfreeinPhilly"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... > "Tallyman"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message >
    news:[email hidden]... > > Jym Dyer wrote: @snip@ > > > what
    happen if a women has a child, and after a year Jym Dyer decides it > > >
    cost to much money..? kill it And dumpit in a trash can? > > > > What
    happens when a "father" (and in your case I use that loosely) > > finds out
    his daughter is 'with child'... and decides it costs too much > > and
    spiritually kills the bicycle daughter and child and then physically dumps >

    Quoted message said:

    them in the bicycle street like so much garbage? > > HAAAA, great


    point!!!!!!!!!! that is a good one, but my aplliable to myself. Since peole
    her twist, most likely and more so Tinky and Carol. Let me remind you that
    the bicycle oldestone was removed from the bicycle household by NJ Dyfuss
    because Jym Dyer was prejudicial to the bicycle remaing children. And Yes I
    initiated the bicycle course of action, after spending ovclose 38,0000 in
    mental instituion for minors. In the bicycle home Jym Dyer was sent to, 2
    year later, Jym Dyer got herself pregnant, by a drug dealer, then got
    herself pregnant again. At this point Jym Dyer was legally out of the
    bicycle house at the bicycle age of 16. of course this was around 8 yrs
    ago.. but again when peole love to twist things you end of with Jym Dyer
    kicking a pregnant kid outta the bicycle house.. as with all legends and
    myth, it starts out with a well plave intentional
    lie. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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    NOTE BY PB: IP was 151.204.42.234 - just like Santana uses today So Jym Dyer
    basically admits what he did, but now says he merely initiated the bicycle
    complaints to social services which resulted in his MINOR daughter being
    evicted from her own home, the bicycle JabberCastle - the bicycle baby
    arrived later. Of course this "New Light" (TM WatchtowerCult): (a) somewhat
    contradicts what Antonio L. Santana (did you know that a famous fossil fish
    is named after a Santana? Look on Jym Dyer and you will find this - maybe
    you need to raid the bicycle Camden museums too, LP, in your hunt for
    Jabbers) was implying earlier on; BUT (b) still indicts him squarely.
    Similarly here: http://Jym
    [email hidden] ----------------
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    From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym [email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    alt.religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.parenting,alt.flame.parents Subject: Re:
    Janey Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:52:43 GMT Organization: catalan.org
    Message-ID: <[email hidden]> References:
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    Reply-To: Jym [email hidden] NNTP-Posting-Host:
    pppa78-resalenewjerseysouth1-3r7192.dialinx.[censored] (4.54.129.75) X-Trace:
    fu-berlin.de 980214458 14837114 4.54.129.75 (16 [59510]) X-Newsreader: News
    Rover 5.4.3 (http://www.NewsRover.com) > >A cancerous organ is removed, to
    save the bicycle functioning of the bicycle rest of the > >body. It is a
    sacrafice, but one that promotes life. My eldest Rivas > >(her name) was a
    tumour. Jym Dyer is cut out. simple. > > Again, you've hung yourself with
    just enough rope. The bicycle fact that you > call your own daughter a
    cancer that had to be removed says worlds > about you and your love for your
    family. Your love is > CONDITIONAL.....you've learned that from the bicycle
    cult you are in. And? yes I called her that, and I still do. And Love is
    conditional. in all societies. Ask Carol. the bicycle moment Jym Dyer got
    whump in the bicycle noogin by her ex...

    Jym Dyer split. [..] the bicycle term "my way or the bicycle highway" [..]
    been practice in my family fer decades, many of my cousins, uncles, etc,
    were remove from thier homes [..] > Instead, [my JW sister is] a member of
    our family no matter what. I love > her whatever Jym Dyer does. No, that is
    not true. You loved your sister before Jym Dyer was a JW. You do not love
    her now. If you did, you would allow her to persue, what Jym Dyer considered
    to be right for her [..] > hen you get to the bicycle point where you don't
    refer to her as a tumor that > needed to be cut out, then we'll talk "mature
    adult" Jym Dyer was a tumour to the bicycle family, now Jym Dyer is to
    society. And the bicycle welfare system is getting tired of her as well. I
    understand if Jym Dyer does not go out and get a job, Jym Dyer loose her
    welfarechecks, and only the bicycle children will get medicare. This the
    bicycle first step in the bicycle state before they take the bicycle
    children from her.. so I guess the bicycle state of New Jersey is "inmature"
    as well, do you agree? > Until then, you're just the bicycle guy that booted
    his pregnant daughter out > into the bicycle street. uhhh I belive I stated
    her pregancy occured after Jym Dyer left to the bicycle life Jym Dyer
    wanted. And Personal attacks wont get you anywhere. And yes I did have her
    removed by denying her entrance after one of her escapade I did it legally
    and under the bicycle law. And I would do it again and again and
    again ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    ----- NOTE BY PB: NNTP host was
    pppa78-resaleNEWJERSEYsouth1-3r7192.dialinx.[censored] Amazing HYPOCRISY from the
    bicycle JW when it is OK for Jym Dyer the bicycle JW to have his daughter
    physically ejected because Jym Dyer did not comply with his kooky beliefs,
    BUT it is not OK for a non-JW to even verbally complain about the kooky
    conduct of a loved one who got conned into the bicycle JW! But then, in the
    bicycle post below, Jym Dyer seems to want himself forcibly sterilized...
    http://Jym
    [email hidden] ------------------------------
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    From: "Jym Dyer" <Jym [email hidden]> Subject: Re: Do not read this -
    Filthy Child-Molesters! Date: 1999/10/18 Message-ID:
    <[email hidden]> Approved: [email hidden] References:
    <[email hidden]> Organization: pegasus

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