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  1. I have a new bodybuildingpysiological theory that the body primarily
    wants to maintain Homeostasis (not a subtle invite to JMW). My body
    seems to very much like the 219lb range and no matter how muc fat I
    lose I always stay around 219lbs. I know I'm gaining muscle (altho not
    huge Dbol amts) but this making getting down to the light-heavy wgt
    cutoff of 197lbs VERY hard.

    I have a question re: injection site rotation. How often can U inject
    into a site before becuz of scar tissue buildup becomes a problem?

  2. <[email hidden]> schreef:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a new bodybuildingpysiological theory that the body primarily
    wants to maintain Homeostasis (not a subtle invite to JMW). My body
    seems to very much like the 219lb range and no matter how muc fat I
    lose I always stay around 219lbs. I know I'm gaining muscle (altho not
    huge Dbol amts) but this making getting down to the light-heavy wgt
    cutoff of 197lbs VERY hard.

    I think that theory happens to be proven over and over again. I mean, the
    fact that Dbol inhibits the HPTA is just one example. Upregulation of
    certain enzymes, and possible increases in SHBG are others.

    What about this theory;
    Intense training sessions are NOT resonsible for growth. They result in
    having more sensitive/higher density of androgen receptors. The actual
    growth is more dependent on androgen levels. (well, that and GH, insuline,
    IGF-1, but theywork through another mechanism. And consumption of protein of
    course...
    The training only works as a "trigger."

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question re: injection site rotation. How often can U inject
    into a site before becuz of scar tissue buildup becomes a problem?

    For years and years, assuming that you use oil based injectables. I still
    use the upper/outher quadrant of the Gluteus Maximus. IF i hit a hard spot,
    i take out the needle and move 1/4-1/2 of an inch backwards/downwards.
    Always used .7/.8mm thick needles, ALL the way in.

    You could choose to use smaller needles and inject in the quads, delts, or
    even triceps. But then it can take up to 1 full minute to sqeeze 1ml through
    such a tiny needle.

    -----
    Pete

    P.S. remember what John said...

  3. Pete said:

    <[email hidden]> schreef:

    Quoted message said:

    I have a new bodybuildingpysiological theory that the body primarily
    wants to maintain Homeostasis (not a subtle invite to JMW). My body
    seems to very much like the 219lb range and no matter how muc fat I
    lose I always stay around 219lbs. I know I'm gaining muscle (altho not
    huge Dbol amts) but this making getting down to the light-heavy wgt
    cutoff of 197lbs VERY hard.

    I think that theory happens to be proven over and over again. I mean, the
    fact that Dbol inhibits the HPTA is just one example. Upregulation of
    certain enzymes, and possible increases in SHBG are others.

    What about this theory;
    Intense training sessions are NOT resonsible for growth. They result in
    having more sensitive/higher density of androgen receptors. The actual
    growth is more dependent on androgen levels. (well, that and GH, insuline,
    IGF-1, but theywork through another mechanism. And consumption of protein of
    course...
    The training only works as a "trigger."

    Quoted message said:

    I have a question re: injection site rotation. How often can U inject
    into a site before becuz of scar tissue buildup becomes a problem?

    For years and years, assuming that you use oil based injectables. I still
    use the upper/outher quadrant of the Gluteus Maximus. IF i hit a hard spot,
    i take out the needle and move 1/4-1/2 of an inch backwards/downwards.
    Always used .7/.8mm thick needles, ALL the way in.

    You could choose to use smaller needles and inject in the quads, delts, or
    even triceps. But then it can take up to 1 full minute to sqeeze 1ml through
    such a tiny needle.

    -----
    Pete

    P.S. remember what John said...

    I use anabolic steroids to stay alive (and have only lost weight and
    strength, as they don't seem to work very well when you're this sick,
    however I do seem to have plateued in muscle loss recently), so being
    able to inject is a life or death problem for me. While I would love to
    rotate injection sites (and indeed had to when doing eight 1-2mL
    injections a week) I suffered the consequences: permanent nerve damage
    to both thighs including pralysis of the lower half of the vastus
    lateralis in one thigh. So, in my opinion, I'd avoid the thighs (the doc
    that did the EMG study on my leg after this related to me the story of a
    bodybuilder who swore up and down he didn't inject into his
    thighs...same symptoms...).

    Regarding the triceps, be careful: there's a major nerve around the back
    of the arm and major blood vessels medially.

    I've been thinking of using the deltoids as the hips have now become
    very painful (low platelets and other factors have lead to significant
    scarring in the upper hip towards the iliac crest). If you choose to use
    the deltoids, and you don't have absolutely massive shoulders, be
    careful of the length of needle you use and the angle. I've been advised
    not to go perpendicular to the skin like is done to my hips but rather
    at an angle to make sure the needle ends in the muscle belly and not
    below the muscle. I don't know how someone can comfortable and safely
    inject their own gluteus maximus correctly, my injections are done for
    me. Maybe it's because of the atrophy following hip replacements (which
    preclude continuing to perform heavy squats), but even so, I just can't
    seem to imagine getting the needle into the gluteus maximus. I can see
    people doing it more laterally, but that's a different muscle, and I
    don't think it'd be large enough even with training to hold up for
    several years.

    A lot of HIV patients use non-prescription steroids to stave off muscle
    loss - or more often to cope with the fear of wasting and other effects
    of the disease. As such, they often present with osteonecrosis (my
    osteonecrosis occured years before anabolic or corticosteroid
    treatments, and was caused by trauma and iron overload). When you
    inject, make sure you pull back the needle and get bubbles, not blood.
    During a problematic injection the syringe had to have a lot of pressure
    put on it and it moved ever so slightly...into a small vein, whereby the
    oily injection went in very quickly and I very quickly was overcome by
    severe coughing and chest pain as little globules were pushed through my
    lungs and were (hopefully) churned into small enough globules on the
    second pass through the heart to not cause more osteonecrosis. Be
    careful with injecting.

    I post this not because I encourage the use of anabolic steroids, but
    because I believe that if one is going to use drugs/medications of any
    sort without proper medical supervision that it's best for everyone,
    individual and community, in the long term that the user not completely
    wreck themselves.

    Regards,

    Ari

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