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Mountain to Road - Part 2

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  1. First of all, thanks for all of the help and suggestions. For those of you
    that think that carbon fiber is not the right way forward, I am a convert.
    (BTW, I have the 26 x 1.25 panaracer 100PSI tires on the bike now).

    Having said that, I am still having trouble with the technical aspect of the
    swap. Rockshox has no detail on their website about the Judy Race model. I
    am not clear on the threadless / threaded issue (although I think that the
    Judy Race is threadless, so I presume that the new shock should be
    threadless as well?), or the question of the axle-to-crown distance issue.
    Moreover, I am not sure whether I will be able to swap the Judy Race fork
    back in, if I wanted to at some later date.

    Finally, on the "suspension corrected" issue, I know that I can get the
    Tange Ridged Fork for $43.00 (US), and that it comes in a "suspension
    corrected" model, but is this the right one for this application? If anyone
    has the patients and expertise, I would be happy if they would check out
    http://www.webcyclery.com/product.php?productid=17091&cat=319&page=1 , and
    help answer some of these questions for me. Thanks!

  2. Barlaw said:

    am not clear on the threadless / threaded issue (although I think that the
    Judy Race is threadless, so I presume that the new shock should be
    threadless as well?)

    Yes, if you want to keep the same headset and stem.

    Quoted message said:

    or the question of the axle-to-crown distance issue.
    Moreover, I am not sure whether I will be able to swap the Judy Race fork
    back in, if I wanted to at some later date.

    No reason why not.

    Quoted message said:

    Finally, on the "suspension corrected" issue, I know that I can get the
    Tange Ridged Fork for $43.00 (US), and that it comes in a "suspension
    corrected" model, but is this the right one for this application?

    That fork is actually "suspension corrected" for about a 2 inch travel
    fork or less (note that the axle to crown height is only 23mm more than
    the non-corrected model). I bought that model to replace a 4" travel
    fork on my MTB, knowing that it would change things. It lowered the
    front end substantially, and steepened the head and seat tube angles
    about two degrees. It also made the BB (and pedal clearance) quite
    low... which is ok sometimes, but you have to be careful about pedaling
    through turns. That was really the only bad feature. The bike handled
    very well on the road, but you will want to move your seat back... make
    sure you have some room on the rails to do so.

    Or... you could look for a fork that has a longer axle to crown
    distance.

    When you swap forks you'll need to remove the crown race of the
    headset, and install it on the new fork. A piece of pipe that just fits
    over the steerer tube works well for this.

  3. Ron Ruff wrote:
    [snip good advice]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Finally, on the "suspension corrected" issue, I know that I can get the
    Tange Ridged Fork for $43.00 (US), and that it comes in a "suspension
    corrected" model, but is this the right one for this application?

    Quoted message said:

    That fork is actually "suspension corrected" for about a 2 inch travel
    fork or less (note that the axle to crown height is only 23mm more than
    the non-corrected model).

    Yep, that's much shorter than your average fork at 413 mm.

    Quoted message said:

    Or... you could look for a fork that has a longer axle to crown
    distance.

    Like the Surly Instigator at http://www.surlybikes.com/forks.html. 447
    mm axle to crown. QBP deals in Surly, so you can get that fork at most
    bike shops. I'm sure a shope will be able to give you plenty of other
    options, too.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  4. dvt said:

    Yep, that's much shorter than your average fork at 413 mm.

    Average fork lengths have increased rapidly in the last five years or so,
    and I don't think we've established when Barlaw's bike was built. The
    original rigid fork on my 1999 Rockhopper measured 412mm from axle to
    crown. I eventually replaced it with a Kona Project 2. P2s have come in
    different lengths over the years, but the one I bought was almost an exact
    match for the original Specialized fork.

    This page lists the P2 as 410mm:

    http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/c/SSFK

    If Barlaw's Stumpjumper is of a similar vintage to my Rockhopper, I'd say
    that a P2 or the Tange fork mentioned above in the thread would be an
    excellent match.

    Pace RC31s used to come in a 420mm model, and that's still available to
    special order, but the standard length is now 440mm.

    James Thomson

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