"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I've done a few alterations which seem to have done the trick, there is an instant positive feel from the bike so i'll stick with it for now. At least I didn't spend anything on extra parts. 🙂
So tell us what you did?
-- Perre
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Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.
Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I didn't think it'd be noticeable.)
Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.
Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I didn't think it'd be noticeable.)
Just so you know, those aren't *small* adjustments!
Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.
Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I didn't think it'd be noticeable.)
Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or less dialed in already. -- Perre
" S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.
Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I didn't think it'd be noticeable.)
Just so you know, those aren't *small* adjustments!
Bill "an inch is huge (shut up Slacker)" S.
TBH this is the very first time i've tried to get "exact" measurements to set a bike up.
"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So tell us what you did?
Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.
Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I didn't think it'd be noticeable.)
Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change anything more than 3-4 mm
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a time. Of course they are more or less dialed in already. -- Perre
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I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically minded.
Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or less dialed in already.
I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically minded.
Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or less dialed in already.
I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically minded.
Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
-- Perre
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I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly". That's why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂
"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small > adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change > anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or > less dialed in already. > I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically minded.
Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
-- Perre
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I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly". That's why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂
What part of the world are you in then?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a veritable chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to my bedtime at a quarter past midnight.
"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Tetsuo Shima wrote: > "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small >> adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change >> anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or >> less dialed in already. >> > I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I do > like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically > minded.
Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
-- Perre
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I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly". That's why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂
What part of the world are you in then?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a veritable chat room.
I'm
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in Sweden and all I can see is that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to my bedtime at a quarter past midnight.
-- Perre
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I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂
BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless spam. 🙂
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tetsuo Shima wrote: >> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small >>> adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change >>> anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or >>> less dialed in already. >>> >> I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I >> do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very >> mechanically minded. > > Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I > know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that > those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd > know. > > -- > Perre > > You have to be smarter than a robot to reply. > > I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly". That's why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂
What part of the world are you in then?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a veritable chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to my bedtime at a quarter past midnight.
-- Perre
You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂
BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless spam. 🙂
Yeah I dug a little deeper in you properties and saw the .uk adresses and also the uni-de berlin whatever so I take it you'r e posting from Ireland and using news.individual.net as your newsserver.
"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Tetsuo Shima wrote: > "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Tetsuo Shima wrote: >>> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small >>>> adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change >>>> anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or >>>> less dialed in already. >>>> >>> I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I >>> do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very >>> mechanically minded. >> >> Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I >> know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that >> those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd >> know. >> >> -- >> Perre >> >> You have to be smarter than a robot to reply. >> >> > I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly". That's > why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂 > > What part of the world are you in then?
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a veritable chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to my bedtime at a quarter past midnight.
-- Perre
You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂
BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless spam. 🙂
Yeah I dug a little deeper in you properties and saw the .uk adresses and also the uni-de berlin whatever so I take it you'r e posting from Ireland and using news.individual.net as your newsserver.
-- Perre
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Got it in one. 🙂
Anyways, i'd better get some sleep too, seeya around.
"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tetsuo Shima wrote: >> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> Tetsuo Shima wrote: >>>> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those small >>>>> adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never change >>>>> anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they are more or >>>>> less dialed in already. >>>>> >>>> I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be. But I >>>> do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am very >>>> mechanically minded. >>> >>> Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many cyclists I >>> know". My only purpose of the post was to point out the fact that >>> those are not small adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd >>> know. >>> >>> -- >>> Perre >>> >>> You have to be smarter than a robot to reply. >>> >>> >> I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly". That's >> why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂 >> >> What part of the world are you in then? > > Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a veritable chat > room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is that you're posting via > hotmail. > It's getting close to my bedtime at a quarter past midnight. > > -- > Perre > > You have to be smarter than a robot to reply. > > I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂
BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless spam. 🙂
Yeah I dug a little deeper in you properties and saw the .uk adresses and also the uni-de berlin whatever so I take it you'r e posting from Ireland and using news.individual.net as your newsserver.
-- Perre
You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
Got it in one. 🙂
Anyways, i'd better get some sleep too, seeya around.
Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.
But in a reply to me, you said your brake levers were already at the correct angle(?)
"Tetsuo Shima" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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What are the correct settings for the handlebars and seat, (as in how much higher the handlebars should be above the seat in relation to body length and arm length.)
The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists, (which can hurt a lot after long
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rides.)
Links to relevents site gratefully welcome.
The idea behind that forward leaning stance is to improve front wheel traction. It helps prevent washouts. Try a hybrid. They're more upright for comfort yet can do some offroad.
What are the correct settings for the handlebars and seat, (as in how much higher the handlebars should be above the seat in relation to body length and arm length.)
The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists, (which can hurt a lot after long haul rides.)
First of all, check that your wrists are in the right position. A lot people have their brake levers at the wrong angle, and as they're covering the brakes during a ride, it puts unnecessary strain on the wrists.
Sit on your bike in the normal riding position and extend your index and middle fingers to rest on the levers. There should be (more or less) a straight line down your forearms to the tips of your fingers.
A related question--would the brake lever position have anything to do with soreness in the thumb joint (the big one farther from the tip of the thumb) ? It has been killing me lately. I think it may have more to do with shifter position, or just poor technique--not keeping the thumb under the bar.
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"Tetsuo Shima" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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What are the correct settings for the handlebars and seat, (as in how
much
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higher the handlebars should be above the seat in relation to body
length
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and arm length.)
The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists, (which can hurt a lot after long
haul
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rides.)
Links to relevents site gratefully welcome.
The idea behind that forward leaning stance is to improve front wheel traction. It helps prevent washouts. Try a hybrid. They're more upright for comfort yet can do some offroad.
Dave
I don't need frontwheel traction atm. Setup is perfect now.
"Luke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2004042812180116807%lrl@coxnet...
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bomba said:
Tetsuo Shima said:
What are the correct settings for the handlebars and seat, (as in how
much
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higher the handlebars should be above the seat in relation to body
length
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and arm length.)
The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists, (which can hurt a lot after long
haul
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rides.)
First of all, check that your wrists are in the right position. A lot people have their brake levers at the wrong angle, and as they're
covering
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the brakes during a ride, it puts unnecessary strain on the wrists.
Sit on your bike in the normal riding position and extend your index and middle fingers to rest on the levers. There should be (more or less) a straight line down your forearms to the tips of your fingers.
A related question--would the brake lever position have anything to do with soreness in the thumb joint (the big one farther from the tip of the thumb) ? It has been killing me lately. I think it may have more to do with shifter position, or just poor technique--not keeping the thumb under the bar.
Luckily my shifters are attached to the brakes, so it's easy to adjust. I suppose it'd be a good idea to move the shifters as much as the brakes.
