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  1. "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Tetsuo Shima said:
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    I've done a few alterations which seem to have done the
    trick, there is an instant positive feel from the bike
    so i'll stick with it for now. At least I didn't spend
    anything on extra parts. 🙂

    So tell us what you did?

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    Perre

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    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved
    that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake
    levers forward by about 45 degrees.

    Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I
    didn't think it'd be noticeable.)

  2. Tetsuo Shima said:

    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved
    that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake
    levers forward by about 45 degrees.

    Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I
    didn't think it'd be noticeable.)

    Just so you know, those aren't *small* adjustments!

    Bill "an inch is huge (shut up Slacker)" S.

  3. Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    So tell us what you did?


    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved
    that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake
    levers forward by about 45 degrees.

    Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I
    didn't think it'd be noticeable.)

    Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those
    small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never
    change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of course they
    are more or less dialed in already.
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    Perre

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  4. " S o r n i" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and
    moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the
    brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.

    Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I
    didn't think it'd be noticeable.)

    Just so you know, those aren't *small* adjustments!

    Bill "an inch is huge (shut up Slacker)" S.


    TBH this is the very first time i've tried to get "exact"
    measurements to set a bike up.

  5. "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    So tell us what you did?


    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and
    moved that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the
    brake levers forward by about 45 degrees.

    Funnily small adjustments make a lot of difference, (I
    didn't think it'd be noticeable.)

    Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those
    small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would never
    change anything more than 3-4 mm


    at

    Quoted message said:

    a time. Of course they are more or less dialed in already.
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    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be.
    But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am
    very mechanically minded.

  6. Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those
    small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would
    never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of
    course they are more or less dialed in already.


    I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will be.
    But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments as I am
    very mechanically minded.

    Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to point
    out the fact that those are not small adjusments, like Bill
    also did. Just so you'd know.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

  7. "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those
    small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would
    never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of
    course they are more or less dialed in already.


    I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will
    be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments
    as I am very mechanically minded.

    Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to point
    out the fact that those are not small adjusments, like
    Bill also did. Just so you'd know.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly".
    That's why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂

    What part of the world are you in then?

  8. Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    > Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call those
    > small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know would
    > never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a time. Of
    > course they are more or less dialed in already.
    >
    I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will
    be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments
    as I am very mechanically minded.

    Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to
    point out the fact that those are not small adjusments,
    like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'd never spent the time before to set a bike "properly".
    That's why I thought they were only "small" changes. 🙂

    What part of the world are you in then?

    Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a veritable
    chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is that you're
    posting via hotmail. It's getting close to my bedtime at a
    quarter past midnight.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

  9. "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Tetsuo Shima wrote:
    > "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > message
    >> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call
    >> those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know
    >> would never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a
    >> time. Of course they are more or less dialed in
    >> already.
    >>
    > I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will
    > be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments
    > as I am very mechanically minded.

    Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to
    point out the fact that those are not small adjusments,
    like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'd never spent the time before to set a bike
    "properly". That's why I thought they were only "small"
    changes. 🙂

    What part of the world are you in then?

    Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a
    veritable chat room.


    I'm

    Quoted message said:

    in Sweden and all I can see is that you're posting via
    hotmail. It's getting close to my bedtime at a quarter
    past midnight.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front of
    me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂

    BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting
    countless spam. 🙂

  10. Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Tetsuo Shima wrote:
    >> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> message
    >>> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call
    >>> those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I know
    >>> would never change anything more than 3-4 mm at a
    >>> time. Of course they are more or less dialed in
    >>> already.
    >>>
    >> I'm no professional bike, never have been, never will
    >> be. But I do like to do all my own repairs/adjustments
    >> as I am very mechanically minded.
    >
    > Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    > cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to
    > point out the fact that those are not small adjusments,
    > like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
    >
    > --
    > Perre
    >
    > You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
    >
    >
    I'd never spent the time before to set a bike
    "properly". That's why I thought they were only "small"
    changes. 🙂

    What part of the world are you in then?

    Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a
    veritable chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is
    that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to my
    bedtime at a quarter past midnight.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front
    of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂

    BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless
    spam. 🙂

    Yeah I dug a little deeper in you properties and saw the .uk
    adresses and also the uni-de berlin whatever so I take it
    you'r e posting from Ireland and using news.individual.net
    as your newsserver.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

  11. "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Tetsuo Shima wrote:
    > "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > message "]news:[email hidden]...
    >> Tetsuo Shima wrote:
    >>> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>> message
    >>>> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call
    >>>> those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I
    >>>> know would never change anything more than 3-4 mm
    >>>> at a time. Of course they are more or less dialed
    >>>> in already.
    >>>>
    >>> I'm no professional bike, never have been, never
    >>> will be. But I do like to do all my own
    >>> repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically
    >>> minded.
    >>
    >> Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    >> cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to
    >> point out the fact that those are not small
    >> adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Perre
    >>
    >> You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
    >>
    >>
    > I'd never spent the time before to set a bike
    > "properly". That's why I thought they were only
    > "small" changes. 🙂
    >
    > What part of the world are you in then?

    Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a
    veritable chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is
    that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to
    my bedtime at a quarter past midnight.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front
    of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂

    BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless
    spam. 🙂

    Yeah I dug a little deeper in you properties and saw the
    .uk adresses and also the uni-de berlin whatever so I take
    it you'r e posting from Ireland and using
    news.individual.net as your newsserver.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    Got it in one. 🙂

    Anyways, i'd better get some sleep too, seeya around.

  12. Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...
    > Tetsuo Shima wrote:
    >> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >> message "]news:[email hidden]...
    >>> Tetsuo Shima wrote:
    >>>> "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >>>> message
    >>>>> Great. Geometry is where it's at. I wouldn't call
    >>>>> those small adjustments though. Many cyclists I
    >>>>> know would never change anything more than 3-4 mm
    >>>>> at a time. Of course they are more or less dialed
    >>>>> in already.
    >>>>>
    >>>> I'm no professional bike, never have been, never
    >>>> will be. But I do like to do all my own
    >>>> repairs/adjustments as I am very mechanically
    >>>> minded.
    >>>
    >>> Neither am I. You may have noticed that I wrote "Many
    >>> cyclists I know". My only purpose of the post was to
    >>> point out the fact that those are not small
    >>> adjusments, like Bill also did. Just so you'd know.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Perre
    >>>
    >>> You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
    >>>
    >>>
    >> I'd never spent the time before to set a bike
    >> "properly". That's why I thought they were only
    >> "small" changes. 🙂
    >>
    >> What part of the world are you in then?
    >
    > Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You're like a
    > veritable chat room. I'm in Sweden and all I can see is
    > that you're posting via hotmail. It's getting close to
    > my bedtime at a quarter past midnight.
    >
    > --
    > Perre
    >
    > You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.
    >
    >
    I'll give you a broad hint, you're only an hour in front
    of me and it's well known for being "green" here. 🙂

    BTW the Hotmail account is fake, saves getting countless
    spam. 🙂

    Yeah I dug a little deeper in you properties and saw the
    .uk adresses and also the uni-de berlin whatever so I
    take it you'r e posting from Ireland and using
    news.individual.net as your newsserver.

    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.


    Got it in one. 🙂

    Anyways, i'd better get some sleep too, seeya around.

    Cool. G'night mate
    --
    Perre

    You have to be smarter than a robot to reply.

  13. Tetsuo Shima said:

    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and moved
    that back about an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake
    levers forward by about 45 degrees.

    But in a reply to me, you said your brake levers were
    already at the correct angle(?)

    --
    a.m-b FAQ: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

    b.bmx FAQ: t-online.debmx faq.htm

  14. "Tetsuo Shima" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What are the correct settings for the handlebars and seat,
    (as in how much higher the handlebars should be above the
    seat in relation to body length and arm length.)

    The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too far
    forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists, (which
    can hurt a lot after long


    haul

    Quoted message said:

    rides.)

    Links to relevents site gratefully welcome.

    The idea behind that forward leaning stance is to
    improve front wheel traction. It helps prevent washouts.
    Try a hybrid. They're more upright for comfort yet can
    do some offroad.

    Dave

  15. "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and
    moved that back


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward
    by about 45 degrees.

    But in a reply to me, you said your brake levers were
    already at the correct angle(?)

    But he's now altered the position he is sat at, and
    therefore, also his reach angle to the bars, no?

    Shaun aRe

  16. bomba said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    What are the correct settings for the handlebars and
    seat, (as in how much higher the handlebars should be
    above the seat in relation to body length and arm
    length.)

    The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too
    far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists,
    (which can hurt a lot after long haul rides.)

    First of all, check that your wrists are in the right
    position. A lot people have their brake levers at the
    wrong angle, and as they're covering the brakes during a
    ride, it puts unnecessary strain on the wrists.

    Sit on your bike in the normal riding position and extend
    your index and middle fingers to rest on the levers. There
    should be (more or less) a straight line down your
    forearms to the tips of your fingers.

    A related question--would the brake lever position have
    anything to do with soreness in the thumb joint (the big one
    farther from the tip of the thumb) ? It has been killing me
    lately. I think it may have more to do with shifter
    position, or just poor technique--not keeping the thumb
    under the bar.

  17. "Pistof" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Tetsuo Shima" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What are the correct settings for the handlebars and
    seat, (as in how


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    higher the handlebars should be above the seat in
    relation to body


    length

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and arm length.)

    The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too
    far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists,
    (which can hurt a lot after long


    haul

    Quoted message said:

    rides.)

    Links to relevents site gratefully welcome.

    The idea behind that forward leaning stance is to improve
    front wheel traction. It helps prevent washouts. Try a
    hybrid. They're more upright for comfort yet can do some
    offroad.

    Dave


    I don't need frontwheel traction atm. Setup is perfect now.

  18. "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and
    moved that back


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers forward
    by about 45 degrees.

    But in a reply to me, you said your brake levers were
    already at the correct angle(?)

    --
    a.m-b FAQ: j-harris.netambfaq.htm

    a.bmx FAQ: t-online.debmx faq.htm

    Err, I do appologise about that. I honestly thought they
    were ok until I adjusted everything else. 🙂

  19. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "bomba" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    Raised the seat about an inch, levelled the seat and
    moved that back


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an inch too. Finally I dropped the brake levers
    forward by about 45 degrees.

    But in a reply to me, you said your brake levers were
    already at the correct angle(?)

    But he's now altered the position he is sat at, and
    therefore, also his reach angle to the bars, no?

    Shaun aRe


    They were out quite a way, but it was more obvious after the
    adjustments.

  20. "Luke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2004042812180116807%lrl@coxnet...

    Quoted message said:
    bomba said:
    Tetsuo Shima said:

    What are the correct settings for the handlebars and
    seat, (as in how


    much

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    higher the handlebars should be above the seat in
    relation to body


    length

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and arm length.)

    The reason i'm asking is that I seem to be leaning too
    far forward and putting a lot of strain on my wrists,
    (which can hurt a lot after long


    haul

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rides.)

    First of all, check that your wrists are in the right
    position. A lot people have their brake levers at the
    wrong angle, and as they're


    covering

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the brakes during a ride, it puts unnecessary strain on
    the wrists.

    Sit on your bike in the normal riding position and
    extend your index and middle fingers to rest on the
    levers. There should be (more or less) a straight line
    down your forearms to the tips of your fingers.

    A related question--would the brake lever position have
    anything to do with soreness in the thumb joint (the big
    one farther from the tip of the thumb) ? It has been
    killing me lately. I think it may have more to do with
    shifter position, or just poor technique--not keeping the
    thumb under the bar.


    Luckily my shifters are attached to the brakes, so it's easy
    to adjust. I suppose it'd be a good idea to move the
    shifters as much as the brakes.

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