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Mountain Bikers Flunk "Sharing 101"

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  1. As usual, the mountain bikers blame everybody else for their
    difficulties, when it's blatantly obvious that (1) the problems are
    caused ONLY by the presence of bicycles and (2) guess who brings the
    bicycles: ONLY the mountain bikers! (3) There is only ONE equitable
    solution: ban bicycles and other vehicles from all natural areas, and
    restrict them to pavement; that will allow everyone to use the trails,
    without any conflict -- just as we did before people decided to bring
    their bicycles with them where they don't belong. This policy works
    just fine in Yosemite National Park, the nation's premier outdoor
    recreational facility.

    Mike

    From: Tom Ward <[email hidden]>
    Subject: Ad Hoc Committee, Common Ground
    Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:30:24 -0600

    To The Ad Hoc Committee on Common Ground:

    After much thought, consideration, and regret, we have decided to
    withdraw IMBA California from the Common Ground Ad Hoc Committee
    effective immediately. This means that Michael Kelley, Patty Ciesla
    and Tom Ward will not be attending the November scheduled meeting of
    the Ad Hoc group. We believe our withdrawal effectively dissolves the
    Ad Hoc Committee, which was constituted as a voluntary, consensus
    process at the Folsom Trails Conference.

    The Finding Common Ground session was identified as an "opportunity to
    put conflict issues aside and discuss commonalties between user groups
    while looking for mutual partnerships." This was to be an effort to
    try something new; to bring together groups and individuals who were
    committed to easing conflicts and achieving a safe, high quality
    experience for all muscle powered trail users. Above all, the task was
    to mount a collaborative effort, without the bickering that had
    characterized previous efforts.

    According to the ground rules, the Common Ground group would only
    focus on items of agreement. At the Trails Conference, the two
    specific items of agreement given priority were to work on a set of
    guidelines to reduce conflicts, and to identify a place where a new
    shared use trail would be productive, as well as one where a new
    "separate but equal" trail arrangement would be productive. Since the
    conference, the mailing lists have been full of other topics, attacks
    on individuals and groups, and claims about other users that clearly
    violate the spirit of cooperation agreed to by all.

    Additionally, we believe that the most effective way to resolve trail
    issues around the state is to collaborate, negotiate and find common
    ground with the trail organizations that represent the interests of
    millions of trail users in California. Contrary to this perspective,
    several Ad Hoc members wish to operate on the principle that Ad Hoc
    committee members be independent of formal trail organizations and
    operate purely as involved citizens. IMBA CA considers this latter
    position to be ineffectual because it denies the reality of the formal
    trail organizations throughout the state that regularly work with land
    managers in the development and implementation of trail policy.

    IMBA California, from it inception two years ago, has attempted to
    reach out to other trail users in an effort to improve the trail
    experience for all. We will not cease in our efforts to work with
    other trail organizations to find common ground. In fact we are now
    increasing our outreach to those organizations and individuals that
    can effectively speak for and influence members of the California
    trail community, and above all, who share the basic purposes of the
    Common Ground Caucus. We are optimistic that by working together, we
    can continue to enhance the trail experience for all users on
    California trails.

    Tom Ward
    Michael Kelley

    Tom Ward
    IMBA California Policy Advisor
    cell: 916-505-6875
    office: 916-441-6035
    [email hidden]
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    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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