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Mike Vandeman
Guest
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:59:44 -0700
From: [a responsible citizen]
Subject: Re: Mountain Bikers are Eco-Vandalists!
Eight million bikers can be wrong when it comes down to the welfare of the
environment. You can get the whole story on the Alpine Recreational Study on
the www.dnv.org site. Just scroll to it on the right hand side box.
On Wednesday night, a Parks and Natural Environment committee member showed us
some pictures of mountain bike structures, illegally built on our upper
mountain. What a pack of trash and vandalism in our forests. We are supposed
to go up there again with a parks ranger, and look at more this weekend. It is
time for a backlash against this eco-vandalism by the general public who are not
mountain bikers. It is a crying shame what they have done to our woods. By my
intuition, I have always said that what was happening in our little park
(Mountain View), was probably happening all over Mount Fromme. It seems I am
right. When I go up there, I plan to take a lot of pictures. One biker on our
committee said it would be bad judgement to go on a Saturday, as we would be
taking risk on "mountain biker territory"----WHA--? There, the truth. I sucked
in my breath, and glared. These people tell me I have no right to claim the
neighbourhood park for our neighbourhood, and yet tell me I will be "infringing"
on their "territory"? I was about to say something, but thought the better of
it, since it probably would have gotten me thrown off the committee, and I can
do more on the committee.
Some very dodgy things going on with the mountain bikers and the NSMBA. The
focus groups and Alpine Plan is an eye opener. Things were said like:
* Preserve unique nature of mountain bike experience. Standards can sterilize
experience. ( I take this to mean they do not wish to have rules, containment,
restriction, or enforcement)
This one is a real beauty, isn't it.
* Promote (North Shore Mountains) as a world class mountain bike destination.
(The district already is, so what else is new?)
* Need for mountain bike skills park for kids and youth. (One is already in the
plans; another is being looked at,etc. How many do they need??? And why do we
need to teach youth "skills" to rip up our wildlands? If they build mountain
bike "amusement" parks, and kept them out of our wild places, like skateboard
parks to keep skateboarders off the streets, I could see that working. ie. one
for the city, one for DNV and one for West Van.) -- but of course hell will
freeze over first before we get any mountain biker going for that..
There are liability issues; rescue services are overburdened by mountain bike
injuries. (North Shore Search and Rescue). Mountain bikers want free access,
free ride, and free everything,etc. Another stress on our wildlands last year
and this year is drought (believe it or not). So there is the added stress on
our flora and fauna created by perceived long term climatic changes. If we do
not get our usual April and May deluge of rain, forest closures could come up in
very early summer. Which may not be such a bad thing with regards to mountain
bikers and the upcoming mountain bike conference and festival. Frankly living
right next to the forest, I welcome anything that would prevent forest fires.
I'll keep you up to date.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
From: [a responsible citizen]
Subject: Re: Mountain Bikers are Eco-Vandalists!
Eight million bikers can be wrong when it comes down to the welfare of the
environment. You can get the whole story on the Alpine Recreational Study on
the www.dnv.org site. Just scroll to it on the right hand side box.
On Wednesday night, a Parks and Natural Environment committee member showed us
some pictures of mountain bike structures, illegally built on our upper
mountain. What a pack of trash and vandalism in our forests. We are supposed
to go up there again with a parks ranger, and look at more this weekend. It is
time for a backlash against this eco-vandalism by the general public who are not
mountain bikers. It is a crying shame what they have done to our woods. By my
intuition, I have always said that what was happening in our little park
(Mountain View), was probably happening all over Mount Fromme. It seems I am
right. When I go up there, I plan to take a lot of pictures. One biker on our
committee said it would be bad judgement to go on a Saturday, as we would be
taking risk on "mountain biker territory"----WHA--? There, the truth. I sucked
in my breath, and glared. These people tell me I have no right to claim the
neighbourhood park for our neighbourhood, and yet tell me I will be "infringing"
on their "territory"? I was about to say something, but thought the better of
it, since it probably would have gotten me thrown off the committee, and I can
do more on the committee.
Some very dodgy things going on with the mountain bikers and the NSMBA. The
focus groups and Alpine Plan is an eye opener. Things were said like:
* Preserve unique nature of mountain bike experience. Standards can sterilize
experience. ( I take this to mean they do not wish to have rules, containment,
restriction, or enforcement)
This one is a real beauty, isn't it.
* Promote (North Shore Mountains) as a world class mountain bike destination.
(The district already is, so what else is new?)
* Need for mountain bike skills park for kids and youth. (One is already in the
plans; another is being looked at,etc. How many do they need??? And why do we
need to teach youth "skills" to rip up our wildlands? If they build mountain
bike "amusement" parks, and kept them out of our wild places, like skateboard
parks to keep skateboarders off the streets, I could see that working. ie. one
for the city, one for DNV and one for West Van.) -- but of course hell will
freeze over first before we get any mountain biker going for that..
There are liability issues; rescue services are overburdened by mountain bike
injuries. (North Shore Search and Rescue). Mountain bikers want free access,
free ride, and free everything,etc. Another stress on our wildlands last year
and this year is drought (believe it or not). So there is the added stress on
our flora and fauna created by perceived long term climatic changes. If we do
not get our usual April and May deluge of rain, forest closures could come up in
very early summer. Which may not be such a bad thing with regards to mountain
bikers and the upcoming mountain bike conference and festival. Frankly living
right next to the forest, I welcome anything that would prevent forest fires.
I'll keep you up to date.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
