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  1. Since canned chicken broth does not gel is it safe
    to assume that it is made without bones?

  2. Mary said:

    Since canned chicken broth does not gel is it safe
    to assume that it is made without bones?

    No, it's safe to assume the gelatin has been separated (precipitated
    out) from the stock, to be used as, well gelatin. Canned stock is
    really nothing more than reconstituted bouillon cubes, folks think it
    tastes better only because it contains fat... most foods taste better
    with fat.

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    Mary said:

    Since canned chicken broth does not gel is it safe
    to assume that it is made without bones?

    No, it's safe to assume the gelatin has been separated (precipitated
    out) from the stock, to be used as, well gelatin. Canned stock is
    really nothing more than reconstituted bouillon cubes, folks think it
    tastes better only because it contains fat... most foods taste better
    with fat.

    Oh. Well I guess there will be no shortcuts taken to my usual
    chicken soup made from my own stock.

    How do they "precipitate out" the gelatin? What do you mean
    by that?

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    Mary said:

    Since canned chicken broth does not gel is it safe
    to assume that it is made without bones?

    No, it's safe to assume the gelatin has been separated (precipitated
    out) from the stock, to be used as, well gelatin. Canned stock is
    really nothing more than reconstituted bouillon cubes, folks think it
    tastes better only because it contains fat... most foods taste better
    with fat.

    Oh. Well I guess there will be no shortcuts taken to my usual
    chicken soup made from my own stock.

    How do they "precipitate out" the gelatin? What do you mean
    by that?

    You go a lot of inaccurate information n the first reply. Gelatin comes
    almost entirely from bones and skin, not meat, so non-setting stock probably
    was made from all or mostly meat. Commercial gelatin is made from pigskin
    mostly and also bones - it is not extracted from stock. And canned stock is
    certainly not made from bullion cubes. Many canned stocks are awful but I
    find the Swansons to be quite good. Not homemade but certainly usable in a
    pinch.

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    Peter Aitken
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  5. Peter Aitken said:

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    Mary wrote:
    > Since canned chicken broth does not gel is it safe
    > to assume that it is made without bones?

    No, it's safe to assume the gelatin has been separated (precipitated
    out) from the stock, to be used as, well gelatin. Canned stock is
    really nothing more than reconstituted bouillon cubes, folks think it
    tastes better only because it contains fat... most foods taste better
    with fat.

    Oh. Well I guess there will be no shortcuts taken to my usual
    chicken soup made from my own stock.

    How do they "precipitate out" the gelatin? What do you mean
    by that?

    You go a lot of inaccurate information n the first reply. Gelatin comes
    almost entirely from bones and skin, not meat, so non-setting stock probably
    was made from all or mostly meat. Commercial gelatin is made from pigskin
    mostly and also bones - it is not extracted from stock. And canned stock is
    certainly not made from bullion cubes. Many canned stocks are awful but I
    find the Swansons to be quite good. Not homemade but certainly usable in a
    pinch.

    Geeze, how do you think any gelatin is purified.

    You are the one who's misinformed. Commercial gelatin is made mostly
    from animal hides, all types, and chopped up bones ... but not poultry,
    poultry skin contains little gelatin, mostly it's fat... can certainly
    prove that easily enough at home. Commercial gelatin needs to be
    separated too, they have ways.

    Commercial stock is made from connective tissue, not bones per se, not
    much from meat considering how yoose garbage hoarders do stock too...
    it's from the connective tissue that holds the meat together and the
    meat to the bones... the bones would need to be chopped up to extract
    their gelatin, and then the resultant stock would be awful... for
    commercial gelatin the bones are chopped up, but there no stock is
    being made. Canned/commercial stock is made from animal scraps, very
    little meat is included, certainly none that can be sold as meat
    cuts... mostly its what's left after all the meat cuts are removed,
    animal carcasses are inclueded but after the meat is removed. Poultry
    carcasses are held together with a substantial quantity of connective
    tissue, being how bird skeletons need to be of very light weight.
    Commercial stock is a big business, gelatin even bigger. Gelatin is
    valuable in the pharmaceutical indusry, and cosmetics, and many other
    commercial endeavers having nothing to do with food. Exactly how the
    gelatin is separated from commercial stock vats is something to ask a
    food chemist but there is lots of precise chemical info on the net.
    Btw, the stock is of secondary importance, which is why they steal the
    gelatin, then doctor up the sludge that remains and sell it to yoose...
    they either add back water and can it or evaporate the remaining water
    and sell it as cubes/powder.

    http://www.rense.com/general5/theory.htm

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