Moderate the Group

Crescent Mu_n said:

Phil Holman said:

What do you think?

Not much.

Truer words were never spoken by you.

Fencer said:

Quoted message said:

Why don't you ask me, you worthless TROLL.

Consider it asked.

Consider you ignored.

lol

Idiot.

Crescent Mu_n said:

Fencer said:

Quoted message said:

Why don't you ask me, you worthless TROLL.

Consider it asked.

Consider you ignored.

lol

Idiot.

Oh, man, you got me good. That really stung. The tears are welling up you
hurt me so bad. You set me up so skillfully, then you just knocked me down.
I never saw it coming, I didn't suspect a thing. I let my guard down for
one moment and you struck like a warrior of wit. You are the Master,
roose, the MASTER. No one could have done it as good as you.

You putz.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:53:53 -0400, "Andrew Kerr" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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x-no-archive: yes
I don't have any problems with the newsgroup anymore. I just use a good
KillFile (Fix News {it's free}) and soon as I see the silly stuff ..I
just kill the sender .. [censored] .. soon as another one pops up .. away they
go ! and I'm back to about 80% real stuff ! I consider this newsgroup
just too valuable to let that back and forth childish patter run me off
!
just my .02 worth 🙂

I just use the old fashioned "ignore them" strategy. You don't HAVE to read
the posts for every header in the group. Killfiling a sender only works
until someone replies to that sender....then you get the reply, usually with
the original post stuck in there somewhere. Unless you killfile the
respondant, then you're okay until a third person gets in on it...

You may even miss on-topic posts by killfiling individuals. Dr Chung has a
tendancy to respond to most of the flamebait that's dangled in front of him,
usually feeling the need to defend his character. It is, of course, his
right to defend himself. However, the only way to get rid of all the excess
threads is by killfiling Dr Chung, and then you would miss the good
information he provides when responding to an actual cardiology topic.

Some killfiles let you remove cross-posted headers. Again, you'd miss the
occasional honest question by someone posting both here and sci.med, say.
You can kill (or ignore) an entire thread, but the subjects change so much
that you're still adding things to your filter every day.

No, I say the best way to handle it is to simply ignore the trolls. They
will eventually go away.

Andrew
ps: I may have an advantage in that I have cable-internet so it takes only a
split second to download the headers. I know that for dial-up it's a pain to
download useless headers.

Aside from the information Chung provides which seems to be accurate
what kind of real doctor would even bother with all the flames and
trolls. I can see wanted to help people (which is very admireable)
but to then spend most of your time in silly flame wars is
incomprehensible for soemone with a Phd and whatever credentials he
says he has.

Makes me wonder if he's not some well informed kook.

MD/PhD said:

Quoted message said:

Phil Holman said:

It's probably the only realistic way of getting this NG back on topic
and eliminating the flame wars.
What do you think?

Phil Holman

Oh, wouldn't it be lovely!! How do we do it? Diana

Quoted message said:

Find a cardiologist with time to moderate. Wouldn't be me.

True you seems to spend all your free time involved in fanning flame
wars.

George said:

Aside from the information Chung provides which seems to be accurate
what kind of real doctor would even bother with all the flames and
trolls.

I thought you said you were leaving?

George said:

True you seems to spend all your free time involved in fanning flame
wars.

I thought you said you were leaving?

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Phil Holman said:

It's probably the only realistic way of getting this NG back on topic
and eliminating the flame wars.
What do you think?

Phil Holman

Oh, wouldn't it be lovely!! How do we do it? Diana

Quoted message said:

Find a cardiologist with time to moderate. Wouldn't be me.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

I don't think it should be a cardiologist doing the moderating. There skills
are best used elsewhere. The job is more akin to the guard at the ER door who
makes sure trouble does not break out and occasionally helps patients himself.
I would volunteer if there were a few others - i.e. there should be several
moderators, not one.

Incidentally, I subscribe to about 30 groups and the only one remotely as bad
as this is in the political arena.

Bill

George said:

MD/PhD said:

Quoted message said:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 03:20:33 GMT, "Phil Holman"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>It's probably the only realistic way of getting this NG back on topic
>and eliminating the flame wars.
>What do you think?
>
>Phil Holman

Oh, wouldn't it be lovely!! How do we do it? Diana
>
>

Find a cardiologist with time to moderate. Wouldn't be me.

True you seems to spend all your free time involved in fanning flame
wars.

Might be true if I didn't type so fast.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

Crescent Mu_n said:

George said:

Aside from the information Chung provides which seems to be accurate
what kind of real doctor would even bother with all the flames and
trolls.

I thought you said you were leaving?

Truth is difficult for the untruthful.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

Crescent Mu_n said:

George said:

True you seems to spend all your free time involved in fanning flame
wars.

I thought you said you were leaving?

It's called obsession.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

MD/PhD said:

George said:

True you seems to spend all your free time involved in fanning flame
wars.

Might be true if I didn't type so fast.

Do you type faster than you think?

"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jfJab.3475.com...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it should be a cardiologist doing the moderating. There

skills

Quoted message said:

are best used elsewhere. The job is more akin to the guard at the ER door

who

Quoted message said:

makes sure trouble does not break out and occasionally helps patients

himself.

Quoted message said:

I would volunteer if there were a few others - i.e. there should be

several

Quoted message said:

moderators, not one.

Incidentally, I subscribe to about 30 groups and the only one remotely as

bad

Quoted message said:

as this is in the political arena.

Bill

i agree with a moderated ng for sci.med.cardiology....... let Andrew do his
best in a quieter environment!!!

MD/PhD said:

Truth is difficult for the untruthful.

Logic is difficult to the illogical.

Tiger Lily said:

i agree with a moderated ng for sci.med.cardiology....... let
Andrew do his best in a quieter environment!!!

It would probably have been quieter if he and roose (a.k.a. mu) didn't
invite folks from the al.support groups by crossposting so much. Dontcha
think? After all, it was mu/roose that invited so many of us to your
little corner of usenet. Perhaps you should tell him how you feel.

Tiger Lily said:

"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jfJab.3475.com...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it should be a cardiologist doing the moderating. There

skills

Quoted message said:

are best used elsewhere. The job is more akin to the guard at the ER door

who

Quoted message said:

makes sure trouble does not break out and occasionally helps patients

himself.

Quoted message said:

I would volunteer if there were a few others - i.e. there should be

several

Quoted message said:

moderators, not one.

Incidentally, I subscribe to about 30 groups and the only one remotely as

bad

Quoted message said:

as this is in the political arena.

Bill

i agree with a moderated ng for sci.med.cardiology....... let Andrew do his
best in a quieter environment!!!

I wouldn't be inclined to participate in a moderated ng. Imho, moderation is
very easily censorship. I do my best when there is free speech.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote:

" I do my best when there is free speech."

Do what with your so-called degrees? Respond to every flame there is
and strike back with witty BS to trolls?

I used to think you were a pretty cool guy, helping people and stuff.

Whatever credibility you had with me (not that you care or even should
care) has vanished since it is your responding to every troll and
flame directed your way that has caused this NG to turn into pure
[censored].

Why do you waste your time on this stuff if you really are who you
claim to be?

And what's with this religious preaching in a cardiology group? From
an an acclaimed physician no less?

Like I have stated I used to support you bigtime, but I suggest you
take your wise words, ego and propensity to fan flames somewhere else.

Maybe there is a WWF wrestling NG that might suit your personality.

GIVE US BACK OUR OLD INFORMATIVE GROUP!!!!!!

And what legit health care professional (as esteemed as you claim to
be) would be drumming up buisiness in the absurd manner you seem to.

I am asking the questions (as others have although they too seem
moronic mostly) and I expect no answers, just more
troll/flame/Christianity/self promotion which has reduced this group
to a curiosity, not a helpful cardiology NG as it used to be.

George said:

Do what with your so-called degrees? Respond to every flame there is
and strike back with witty BS to trolls?

Man, I only WISH he was witty. He's gotten quite droll, you know.

Quoted message said:

I used to think you were a pretty cool guy, helping people and stuff.

So did many folks in the alt.support groups when they first saw him. It
didn't take too long for him to prove otherwise.

Quoted message said:

Whatever credibility you had with me (not that you care or even should
care) has vanished since it is your responding to every troll and
flame directed your way that has caused this NG to turn into pure
[censored].

I can't help noticing he's not responding to the badgers and the terriers
though.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:46:25 -0400, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message <[email hidden]>😉:

Quoted message said:

Tiger Lily said:

"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jfJab.3475.com...

Quoted message said:

I don't think it should be a cardiologist doing the moderating. There

skills

Quoted message said:

are best used elsewhere. The job is more akin to the guard at the ER door

who

Quoted message said:

makes sure trouble does not break out and occasionally helps patients

himself.

Quoted message said:

I would volunteer if there were a few others - i.e. there should be

several

Quoted message said:

moderators, not one.

Incidentally, I subscribe to about 30 groups and the only one remotely as

bad

Quoted message said:

as this is in the political arena.

Bill

i agree with a moderated ng for sci.med.cardiology....... let Andrew do his
best in a quieter environment!!!

I wouldn't be inclined to participate in a moderated ng. Imho, moderation is
very easily censorship. I do my best when there is free speech.

I agree with Dr. Chung.

Steve

George said:

"Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote:

" I do my best when there is free speech."

Do what with your so-called degrees? Respond to every flame there is
and strike back with witty BS to trolls?

Truth is hardly witty BS.

Quoted message said:

I used to think you were a pretty cool guy, helping people and stuff.

You seem to think this is about you.

Quoted message said:

Whatever credibility you had with me (not that you care or even should
care)

Bingo

Quoted message said:

has vanished since it is your responding to every troll

Is present company included?

Quoted message said:

and
flame directed your way that has caused this NG to turn into pure
[censored].

Why are you still here, then?

Quoted message said:

Why do you waste your time on this stuff if you really are who you
claim to be?

Writing truthfully is hardly a waste of time.

Quoted message said:

And what's with this religious preaching in a cardiology group?

Discussion is hardly preaching.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

From
an an acclaimed physician no less?

Humbly.

Quoted message said:

Like I have stated I used to support you bigtime, but I suggest you
take your wise words, ego and propensity to fan flames somewhere else.

Don't know who you are to recognize your alleged support.

Quoted message said:

Maybe there is a WWF wrestling NG that might suit your personality.

Not into wrestling.

Quoted message said:

GIVE US BACK OUR OLD INFORMATIVE GROUP!!!!!!

Not mine to give.

Quoted message said:

And what legit health care professional (as esteemed as you claim to
be) would be drumming up buisiness in the absurd manner you seem to.

Not here to drum up business.

Quoted message said:

I am asking the questions (as others have although they too seem
moronic mostly)

What makes you less?

Quoted message said:

and I expect no answers,

Really?

Quoted message said:

just more
troll/flame/Christianity/self promotion which has reduced this group
to a curiosity, not a helpful cardiology NG as it used to be.

Perhaps you should look in the mirror on your way out of the NG. Bye.

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/