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  1. Gonzalez said:
    Vincent Wilcox said:
    Gonzalez said:

    Is it illegal to ride a bike while using a mobile phone?

    No.

    Much like it's not illegal to walk with one. Let the sense guide you, do not be tempted by the
    dark side of the sense.

    So it's perfectly acceptable to wind up motorists by chatting on the phone while overtaking them
    on the inside while they are stuck in traffic twiddling their thumbs?

    You presume they'll actually notice you.

    Quoted message said:

    It makes perfectly good sense to me.

    I'm not suprised.

  2. David Martin said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dunno, but if the berk I saw chatting on his yesterday while riding a mountain bike is a typical
    example of the breed, those so doing should be shot in the face. With very slow bullets.

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    If the said berk was typical of the breed, yes (if one inserts the word "Safely" into the
    question). The "turning right oblivious to the oncoming traffic" move was a good one, the "ride on
    the wrong side of the road I've just turned into" likewise and the "almost bouncing off the parked
    car because holding a straight line and a phone requires too much data processing ability" the
    icing on the cake.

    It's /possible/ he may have been drunk, but at eight a.m. it's more likely that he was, er, not.

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
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  3. Simon Brooke said:


    The law, AIUI, refers specifically to touching the phone. It doesn't say anything about whether
    the phone is handheld or not. So, for example, pressing a button on a 'hands free' phone to accept
    or terminate a call is illegal whilst driving a car.

    Actually found it on the DfT site and a handheld phone

    "is or must be held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any
    other interactive communication function"

    Interestingly in answer to the original question they say the following:

    Q. Do the new mobile phone regulations apply to cyclists?
    R. No. However, the police have powers to deal with careless or dangerous cycling.

    Tony

  4. David Martin said:
    Dave Larrington said:
    Gonzalez said:

    Is it illegal to ride a bike while using a mobile phone?

    Dunno, but if the berk I saw chatting on his yesterday while riding a mountain bike is a typical
    example of the breed, those so doing should be shot in the face. With very slow bullets.

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time, but using a
    mobile is no great difficulty and if you get to a tricky bit you can always stop with minimal
    inconvenience.

    No doubt the lorry driver who killed Bruce Bursford used the same excuse.

    John B

  5. Gonzalez said:
    Vincent Wilcox said:
    Gonzalez said:

    Is it illegal to ride a bike while using a mobile phone?

    No.

    Much like it's not illegal to walk with one. Let the sense guide you, do not be tempted by the
    dark side of the sense.

    So it's perfectly acceptable to wind up motorists by chatting on the phone while overtaking them
    on the inside while they are stuck in traffic twiddling their thumbs?

    You presume they'll actually notice you.

    Quoted message said:

    It makes perfectly good sense to me.

    I'm not suprised.

  6. David Martin said:


    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time,

    Would that be a hands free phone?

    Tony

  7. David Martin said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dunno, but if the berk I saw chatting on his yesterday while riding a mountain bike is a typical
    example of the breed, those so doing should be shot in the face. With very slow bullets.

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    If the said berk was typical of the breed, yes (if one inserts the word "Safely" into the
    question). The "turning right oblivious to the oncoming traffic" move was a good one, the "ride on
    the wrong side of the road I've just turned into" likewise and the "almost bouncing off the parked
    car because holding a straight line and a phone requires too much data processing ability" the
    icing on the cake.

    It's /possible/ he may have been drunk, but at eight a.m. it's more likely that he was, er, not.

    --

    Dave Larrington - legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uklegslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk
    ===========================================================
    Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter
    bhpc.org.ukbhpc.org.uk
    ===========================================================

  8. David Martin said:
    Dave Larrington said:
    Gonzalez said:

    Is it illegal to ride a bike while using a mobile phone?

    Dunno, but if the berk I saw chatting on his yesterday while riding a mountain bike is a typical
    example of the breed, those so doing should be shot in the face. With very slow bullets.

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time, but using a
    mobile is no great difficulty and if you get to a tricky bit you can always stop with minimal
    inconvenience.

    No doubt the lorry driver who killed Bruce Bursford used the same excuse.

    John B

  9. "David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is it illegal to ride a bike while using a mobile phone?

    Dunno, but if the berk I saw chatting on his yesterday while riding a mountain bike is a typical
    example of the breed, those so doing should


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shot in the face. With very slow bullets.

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time, but using a
    mobile is no great difficulty and if you get to a tricky bit you can always stop with minimal
    inconvenience.

    The bloke I was following on the way home this afternoon managed a nifty bit of one handed swerving
    to avoid people on a pelican crossing. I was hoping to watch him do a one handed bunny hop of the
    railway lines criss crossing the side of the docks but he went a different way.

  10. David Martin said:


    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time,

    Would that be a hands free phone?

    Tony

  11. "David Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is it illegal to ride a bike while using a mobile phone?

    Dunno, but if the berk I saw chatting on his yesterday while riding a mountain bike is a typical
    example of the breed, those so doing should


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shot in the face. With very slow bullets.

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time, but using a
    mobile is no great difficulty and if you get to a tricky bit you can always stop with minimal
    inconvenience.

    The bloke I was following on the way home this afternoon managed a nifty bit of one handed swerving
    to avoid people on a pelican crossing. I was hoping to watch him do a one handed bunny hop of the
    railway lines criss crossing the side of the docks but he went a different way.

  12. Martin Harlow said:

    Apparently (according to an RAC bloke on telly) this means that technically you are allowed to
    type a text message on a phone clipped to your dashboard. Though he did point out that you could
    still be done for not being in full control of your vehicle. Which you always could for using a
    handheld mobile, of course. Bit of a funny law, this new one really - it's more of a safety
    campaign backed up by a slightly redundant bit of legislation.

    ttfn

    Martin

    I just did a little bit of research, phones that can be answered and have there incoming calls
    terminated without the use of ones fingers can only be used if they are clipped to a dashboard
    mounted cradle and not used if they are on the seat yet still don't require to be touched to receive
    or terminate the call.

    Seems to me that the law is far too general to cover all the differing technologies. I'm gonna
    switch mine off

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  13. Dave Larrington said:

    If the said berk was typical of the breed, yes (if one inserts the word "Safely" into the
    question). The "turning right oblivious to the oncoming traffic" move was a good one, the "ride on
    the wrong side of the road I've just turned into" likewise and the "almost bouncing off the parked
    car because holding a straight line and a phone requires too much data processing ability" the
    icing on the cake.

    It's /possible/ he may have been drunk, but at eight a.m. it's more likely that he was, er, not.

    Hmm.

    Not typical of the breed (either that or I am not typical.)

    ..d

  14. Martin Harlow said:

    Apparently (according to an RAC bloke on telly) this means that technically you are allowed to
    type a text message on a phone clipped to your dashboard. Though he did point out that you could
    still be done for not being in full control of your vehicle. Which you always could for using a
    handheld mobile, of course. Bit of a funny law, this new one really - it's more of a safety
    campaign backed up by a slightly redundant bit of legislation.

    ttfn

    Martin

    I just did a little bit of research, phones that can be answered and have there incoming calls
    terminated without the use of ones fingers can only be used if they are clipped to a dashboard
    mounted cradle and not used if they are on the seat yet still don't require to be touched to receive
    or terminate the call.

    Seems to me that the law is far too general to cover all the differing technologies. I'm gonna
    switch mine off

    --
    The Reply & From email addresses are checked rarely. mseries.freeserve.co.ukmseries.freeserve.co.uk

  15. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The law, AIUI, refers specifically to touching the phone. It doesn't say anything about whether
    the phone is handheld or not. So, for example, pressing a button on a 'hands free' phone to
    accept or terminate a call is illegal whilst driving a car.

    Actually found it on the DfT site and a handheld phone

    "is or must be held at some point during the course of making or


    receiving a

    Quoted message said:

    call or performing any other interactive communication function"

    Interestingly in answer to the original question they say the following:

    Q. Do the new mobile phone regulations apply to cyclists?
    A. No. However, the police have powers to deal with careless or dangerous cycling.

    Which means that yes, cyclists can be done for using a phone in the same way drivers were before the
    new law came out. Read somewhere, probably in a newspaper (so it must be true) that the police
    didn't particularly want the new law, as they had no problems with the old one. Best to keep a look
    out if you want to talk and ride...

  16. Dave Larrington said:

    If the said berk was typical of the breed, yes (if one inserts the word "Safely" into the
    question). The "turning right oblivious to the oncoming traffic" move was a good one, the "ride on
    the wrong side of the road I've just turned into" likewise and the "almost bouncing off the parked
    car because holding a straight line and a phone requires too much data processing ability" the
    icing on the cake.

    It's /possible/ he may have been drunk, but at eight a.m. it's more likely that he was, er, not.

    Hmm.

    Not typical of the breed (either that or I am not typical.)

    ..d

  17. Try reading the regulation: hmso.gov.uk20032695.htm.

    Motor vehicles only. But usual dangerous/careless cycling offences may still be considered
    appropriate.

    DG "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    David Martin said:


    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some time,

    Would that be a hands free phone?

    Tony

  18. JohnB said:

    David Martin wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why? Is it not possible to ride a bike and use a phone at the same time?

    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time, but using a
    mobile is no great difficulty and if you get to a tricky bit you can always stop with minimal
    inconvenience.

    No doubt the lorry driver who killed Bruce Bursford used the same excuse.

    Even though I am somewhat overweight I doubt I approach a fraction of the 32 tons of an articulated
    lorry, and would be more likely to have someone run into the back of me than run them over.

    That is the thing with a bike. You stop concentrating and it slows down. With a car it could
    go anywhere.

    I'd never advocate using a mobile phone whilst in direct manual control of heavy motorised machinery
    (anything I can't lift). The first driving with a mobile conviction happened just down the road
    here.. Good thing too. (Stopped for driving with mobile and was done for DUI as well).

    ..d

  19. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    David Martin wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Admittedly texting is a touch tricky as you have to ride with no hands for some time,

    Would that be a hands free phone?

    More of a no hands phone, I think.

    --
    Dave...

  20. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The law, AIUI, refers specifically to touching the phone. It doesn't say anything about whether
    the phone is handheld or not. So, for example, pressing a button on a 'hands free' phone to
    accept or terminate a call is illegal whilst driving a car.

    Actually found it on the DfT site and a handheld phone

    "is or must be held at some point during the course of making or


    receiving a

    Quoted message said:

    call or performing any other interactive communication function"

    Interestingly in answer to the original question they say the following:

    Q. Do the new mobile phone regulations apply to cyclists?
    A. No. However, the police have powers to deal with careless or dangerous cycling.

    Which means that yes, cyclists can be done for using a phone in the same way drivers were before the
    new law came out. Read somewhere, probably in a newspaper (so it must be true) that the police
    didn't particularly want the new law, as they had no problems with the old one. Best to keep a look
    out if you want to talk and ride...

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