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Lydiard Hill Training

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  1. (Sorry, in spite of numerous attempts, I cannot post to the original
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    I was very impressed with it's effects on me. I used to use it twice a
    week for just two weeks in the periodised buildup that Lydiard
    specified in his book. My version: 15--30 mins warmup; 400m. up hill
    with exaggerated knee-lift (about 90 secs.), about 30 secs. jog, back
    down the hill quite fast with 200m. fast stride. Each lap = 3 mins.
    Four to eight repeats. But even four was very beneficial -- and in
    just 12 mins. meaning that you could do a useful session in 15 + 12 +
    15 = 42 minutes; and only 50 mins for six repeats.

    Looking back through the diary, it seems I rarely did eight; six
    often.

    And after those two weeks onto light fartlek; and then after that,
    some track.

    One theory I heard about the springing action -- that the large
    muscles above the knee (name?) are the largest in the body; and hence
    the greatest consumers of oxygen; hence significant training of the
    cardiovascular system. Plus flexibility training.

    From my point of view, the downhill strides/sprints were important.
    Many runners are scared to let themselves go on a downhill. I was able
    to easily make 20 m. per 100m. on a downhill section on runners of
    similar ability; and all for very little effort.

    Best regards,

    Jon C.
    --
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jg.campbell/

  2. Jonathan G Campbell said:

    (Sorry, in spite of numerous attempts, I cannot post to the original
    thread.)

    I was very impressed with it's effects on me. I used to use it twice a
    week for just two weeks in the periodised buildup that Lydiard
    specified in his book.

    Ok, thanks. That's good to know that it may not require 3x / week for 2
    months, but I suspect benefits depends on training before starting and a
    person's goals.

    My version: 15--30 mins warmup; 400m. up hill

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    with exaggerated knee-lift (about 90 secs.), about 30 secs. jog, back
    down the hill quite fast with 200m. fast stride. Each lap = 3 mins.

    Wow. I'll probably make mine a little longer per lap but fewer laps -
    and adequate recovery before the downhill. One of my big issues is
    strength endurance for some of these hills. One of the trails I usually
    run has an assortment of hills of various heights and slopes, but
    there's only a few with a flat or gentle area at top and/or bottom.

    Quoted message said:

    One theory I heard about the springing action -- that the large
    muscles above the knee (name?) are the largest in the body; and hence
    the greatest consumers of oxygen; hence significant training of the
    cardiovascular system. Plus flexibility training.

    Right. I think steep hills will get the hams and butt also. The
    springing itself probably works some of the finer muscles in the foot /
    ankle area. I'm finding snowshoe running, even on flats if it's the
    right texture, works some of the larger muscles really well also.

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    From my point of view, the downhill strides/sprints were important.
    Many runners are scared to let themselves go on a downhill.

    Tell me about it 😉 When I was a total newbie, the downhills in this
    area used to scare me - and some still do, but even though still a
    beginner, I've run them enough times now that my legs are getting
    stronger, I'm developing better technique, and gaining more confidence,
    which then allows for more relaxed running. Since a lot of these are run
    in Alaska winter on snow last year, I've had soft footing for the
    downhill - and also soft if I wipe out - so that's helped a lot in
    developing experience. I still don't stride out on the steeper ones
    (15-30%) (and probably won't on the steepest), but the times when I'm on
    the 10% or less, I really have a blast.

    It sounds like enough people have had positive results to make some
    variation worthwhile. Thanks for your comments.

    Dot

    --
    The goal is training and adaptation, not destruction and injury.
    - John Hardy
    http://www.mountainrunning.coolrunning.com.au/misc/training.shtml

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