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  1. Anyone ever heard of a greater feat off less training?

    Good times at Badwater
    Katy man braves Death Valley heat during brutal race
    By ROBERTA MACINNIS
    Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

    If Nathan Ochsner admits it has been baking outside, the rest of us are
    in trouble. The 36-year-old Katy runner recently completed his second
    Badwater Ultramarathon, a 135-mile race through Death Valley each July.

    "It's extremely hot right now; we definitely have good training
    weather," Ochsner said. "Coming from Houston, it's a perfect match."

    Not that it's 130 degrees here or that area runners - even those now
    preparing for cooler fall marathons up north - go for two-day runs,
    which is about how long it took Ochsner to complete the 2005 race. His
    44-hour, 35-minute finish bested his 2001 time of 46:02. (Scott Jurek
    of Seattle won this year's race with a course record of 24:36, more
    than a half hour faster than the previous best time.)

    Low-mileage training
    Ochsner's training for Badwater consisted of a two-hour run at noon on
    the weekends - and not much else. He estimates he typically ran 20 to
    30 miles - 40 tops - a week.

    Ochsner's unusually low mileage is more of necessity than by design. A
    stay-at-home father of three, ages 1-5, who works part time from the
    house, Ochsner just doesn't have time.

    "Based on my training schedule, I should never have completed this
    race," he said. "But I did because I run when I can, I try to run hard,
    and I try to run during the hottest part of the day."

    Ochsner decided he wanted to enter Badwater after seeing a documentary
    on TV.

    "They made it sound like it wasn't humanly possible, even though there
    were obviously humans doing it," he said.

    A marathon runner, he started entering longer events so he would be
    eligible for Badwater, which requires entrants to have experience
    running at least 50 miles.

    "I totally fell in love," Ochsner said, "with Death Valley itself, the
    environment, the course. You cross three mountain ranges; it's just
    nice out there."

    In his 2001 book, To the Edge: A Man, Death Valley and the Mystery of
    Endurance , New York Times reporter Kirk Johnson wrote about how he saw
    tea sets, sailor's nets and fake walls in the desert while he was
    running Badwater - hallucinations brought on by a lack of sleep, the
    heat or both.

    "Yeah, I had more hallucinations than ever before," said Ochsner, who
    spotted lawn chairs, birdbaths and the little concrete animals that
    homeowners sometimes place in their yards.

    Finishing the race
    Ochsner said the high point - figuratively - of this year's race
    was when he passed 40 miles, the point where he had to drop out in
    2003. His low point was at the end.

    "About a half-mile from the finish," he said, "I woke up while I was
    walking, which of course meant I had been sleeping on my feet."

    It took Ochsner an hour to do the last half-mile.

    "I was struggling to wake myself up out of the bad dream I thought I
    was having, and I just couldn't do it because, of course, I wasn't
    dreaming," he said.

    Ochsner said it takes a good support team to help a runner keep his
    cool, both physically and mentally.

    "They (support crew) walked and ran with me," he said. "And literally
    carried me the last half mile."

  2. yes Drew and MiKe show in radio Detroit.
    Drew runs in Hell Michigan.
    and he is a very Low person...
    nice guy. I met him once he was sniffing a tree as I was tieing my shoe
    lace one time. He ask me if I saw a tall blond hair woman.........

    i wreck my leg 2002 and hope to run again soon one day......

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Anyone ever heard of a greater feat off less training?

    It's not unusual for some (mostly slower) ultrarunners to run that little.
    If you slow down to 3-4 minutes/mile off your normal easy pace, you can
    cover major ground. Its a matter of experience, maintaining forward motion,
    eating and drinking. Of course, you get bone tired, and it takes a lot of
    mental discipline to keep on going hour after hour in that state. (Assuming
    your knees, quads, blisters, etc, etc don't get you first.)

    Guys like the person in the article are in some way the equivalent of a 4-5
    hour marathoner, but much more mentally tough. Unlike road racers, where
    it's a game of seconds, many ultra runners have a goal of just finishing in
    one piece without totally collapsing.

    A lot of folks "run" 50 milers off of 40 mpw or less. Of course, they're
    usually going very slow, walk/jogging it. And slow is a relative thing: in
    my last 50 miler, the top 10% of finishers averaged 10 min/mile, and folks
    towards the end were a couple min/mile slower.

    Among the more serious guys, people who run all or nearly all of an ultra,
    believe me, there is a lot of training that goes on. I have friends who
    peak out at 140 mile training weeks, with back-to-back 35 milers, for
    instance. These are guys who can put the pedal to the metal at mile 45 in a
    race.

    -- Dan

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anyone ever heard of a greater feat off less training?


    It's not unusual for some (mostly slower) ultrarunners to run that little.


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    .....but you did not answer the question. are you saying it's not
    unusual for Badwater runners to run that little? 20 & 30 mpw over the
    course of 2 days?

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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anyone ever heard of a greater feat off less training?


    It's not unusual for some (mostly slower) ultrarunners to run that little.


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    ....but you did not answer the question. are you saying it's not
    unusual for Badwater runners to run that little? 20 & 30 mpw over the
    course of 2 days?

    My educated guess is that it is unusual, but not unique, even at BW. I
    believe he said he got up to 40 mpw, which is what I was taking as his
    training, given that people have been known to exaggerate (or minimize in
    this case).

    The guy has probably been running for many years, too, which counts a lot in
    long races.

    Some people make a fetish of training low mileage and running 100+ mile
    races. That way there's never any pressure -- a built in excuse. And
    remember this guy averaged 3.02 mph, which is a medium walking pace. At
    those speeds, it's guts more than training or vo2 max. It's quite an
    accomplishment to finish that thing at *any* speed.

    -- Dan

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