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  1. Europe declines US fad diet:

    Low-carb craze fails to cross Atlantic
    By FRANCES D'EMILIO, Associated Press
    (Published August 8' 2004)
    ROME (AP) - Continental low-carb? No thanks. We'll have slabs of black
    bread for breakfast, rigatoni with broccoli and hot pepper sauce for
    lunch and a plate of shrimp paella for supper.

    While recipe books for diets like Atkins and South Beach are gospel
    for many in the United States, the American craze for low-carb
    versions of brownies, breads and pasta hasn't crossed the Atlantic to
    the Continent.

    Only Britain, where junk-food habits and ample figures often mirror
    those of their American cousins, is turning into an island of low-carb
    fans.

    "The Atkins Diet craze that has gripped America will not result in
    Germans eating more sausage and less potatoes," said Dr. Volker Pudel,
    director of nutrition psychology and research at the University of
    Goettingen in Germany.

    "Just think about German breakfast. You cannot just have eggs without
    the bread, and you cannot eat butter without spreading it on bread. It
    just won't work in Germany, this diet," said Pudel in a telephone
    interview.

    One reason for Europe's snub of low-carb diets like Atkins and South
    Beach might be need - or lack of it.

    Europeans like to walk, even when they have no place to go.

    An entire European family could make a picnic of canapes from the
    staggering high pile of cold cuts in just one New York deli sandwich.
    Italians return from abroad stunned by cherished U.S. dining habits
    like all-you-can eat restaurants and doggy bags for all you can't eat.

    "To give up a plate of pasta for a diet is, in my view, blasphemy,"
    said Andrea Pargallo, a bartender in Napoleone bar on Piazza Venezia,
    as he served customers their morning cappuccino and cornetto
    (brioche).

    "The Mediterranean diet is the best in the world. Indeed, we don't
    have all so many obesity problems like our friends across the ocean,"
    said Pargallo, 31.

    He was referring to Italy's staple diet, praised by nutritionists and
    built heavily around grains like rice and pasta and fruit and
    vegetables.

    In France, where natives walk dogs with one hand and clutch a
    white-flour baguette in the other, pharmacist Niama Wallah said she
    was unfamiliar with the cutting-carbs approach to weight loss.

    "But with the level of obesity that you have in America, it doesn't
    surprise me that people are going to such lengths to diet," said
    Wallah, who runs a pharmacy off the Champs-Elysees in Paris.

    With Europeans so loyal to their linguine and so faithful to their
    pommes frites, European food manufacturers and supermarket chains
    haven't been plunging into low-carb product lines.

    "We don't have low-carbohydrate products," said Omer Pignatti, a
    spokesman for Conad, a chain of supermarkets in Italy. "There isn't
    any on the Italian market and we don't foresee any such initiatives."

    Surveys seem to bear out his assessment.

    "We've seen low-carb to be an entirely U.S. phenomenon," said Lynn
    Dornblaser, director of consulting services for London-based Mintel
    International Group, Ltd.

    Dornblaser was among those presenting a country-by-country survey of
    low-carb products at a food industry meeting in Las Vegas, Nev.,
    earlier this month.

    In the United States, the number of new low-carb products ballooned
    from two in 1999 to 1,329 so far this year, the survey found.

    Continental Europe saw few such products being introduced until this
    year, when a U.S.-based company which sells low-carb bagels, buns,
    cheesecakes and other products, began offering its fare via the
    Internet to Europe.

    In Britain, new low-carb products sharply rose from five last year to
    159 in 2004. Among the items are "no-bread" sandwiches sold by a
    popular sandwich chain, Pret a Manger.

    "We did this very much in response to basically the low-carb fever
    that was sort of coming over here," Nellie Nichols, Pret a Manger's
    head of food, said of the product, which is sold in square boxes to
    resemble sandwiches. "They are going down very, very well."

    "Carbs have become the devil's work, haven't they?" said Matt Hind,
    25, a trainee lawyer buying his lunch in central London. "I think
    people are always looking for quick fixes when it comes to weight."

    With obesity a matter for mounting concern in Britain, the tabloids
    there sprinkle their pages with names of celebrities going low-carb,
    including, reportedly, singer Robbie Williams, former Spice Girl Geri
    Halliwell, actress Minnie Driver and food writer/celebrity chef
    Nigella Lawson.

    Asked why low-carbs haven't caught on in most of Europe, Dornblaser,
    who works out of Mintel's Chicago office, said Europeans "have got a
    better understanding of portion control," as well as balance and
    variety in diet.

    "In the U.S., rightly or wrongly, we like to have a magic pill."

    Correspondents in London, Paris, Warsaw, Madrid, Amsterdam and
    Frankfurt contributed to this report.

  2. The carbs eaten in europe (excluding britain) are primarily
    non-refined or much less refined. And they are eaten with lots of fat
    which lowers the average glyceamic load of any given meal. A much
    ignored part of the western problem is not just the increased
    consumption of refined carbs but the restricting of satiating fats and
    proteins. And these europeans (with the exception of the lastest
    generation of children) drink much less soda which contains the
    dreaded hfcs.

    Low-carb diets restrict refined sugars, refined flours and some high
    GI load tubers. One has to have a diet high in these crappy carbs
    first in order to need to adjust the carbs down.

    I would think that by now you would know enough about low-carb diets
    to understand the fact that low-carbers eat plenty of good carbs like
    fresh veggies and fruits and plenty of good fats to help with
    sataiation and to lower the average GI load of a meal.

    You know, you embarass yourself every time you try to make these kinds
    of idiotic arguments.

    TC

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    Quoted message said:

    Europe declines US fad diet:

    Low-carb craze fails to cross Atlantic
    By FRANCES D'EMILIO, Associated Press
    (Published August 8' 2004)
    ROME (AP) - Continental low-carb? No thanks. We'll have slabs of black
    bread for breakfast, rigatoni with broccoli and hot pepper sauce for
    lunch and a plate of shrimp paella for supper.

    While recipe books for diets like Atkins and South Beach are gospel
    for many in the United States, the American craze for low-carb
    versions of brownies, breads and pasta hasn't crossed the Atlantic to
    the Continent.

    Only Britain, where junk-food habits and ample figures often mirror
    those of their American cousins, is turning into an island of low-carb
    fans.

    "The Atkins Diet craze that has gripped America will not result in
    Germans eating more sausage and less potatoes," said Dr. Volker Pudel,
    director of nutrition psychology and research at the University of
    Goettingen in Germany.

    "Just think about German breakfast. You cannot just have eggs without
    the bread, and you cannot eat butter without spreading it on bread. It
    just won't work in Germany, this diet," said Pudel in a telephone
    interview.

    One reason for Europe's snub of low-carb diets like Atkins and South
    Beach might be need - or lack of it.

    Europeans like to walk, even when they have no place to go.

    An entire European family could make a picnic of canapes from the
    staggering high pile of cold cuts in just one New York deli sandwich.
    Italians return from abroad stunned by cherished U.S. dining habits
    like all-you-can eat restaurants and doggy bags for all you can't eat.

    "To give up a plate of pasta for a diet is, in my view, blasphemy,"
    said Andrea Pargallo, a bartender in Napoleone bar on Piazza Venezia,
    as he served customers their morning cappuccino and cornetto
    (brioche).

    "The Mediterranean diet is the best in the world. Indeed, we don't
    have all so many obesity problems like our friends across the ocean,"
    said Pargallo, 31.

    He was referring to Italy's staple diet, praised by nutritionists and
    built heavily around grains like rice and pasta and fruit and
    vegetables.

    In France, where natives walk dogs with one hand and clutch a
    white-flour baguette in the other, pharmacist Niama Wallah said she
    was unfamiliar with the cutting-carbs approach to weight loss.

    "But with the level of obesity that you have in America, it doesn't
    surprise me that people are going to such lengths to diet," said
    Wallah, who runs a pharmacy off the Champs-Elysees in Paris.

    With Europeans so loyal to their linguine and so faithful to their
    pommes frites, European food manufacturers and supermarket chains
    haven't been plunging into low-carb product lines.

    "We don't have low-carbohydrate products," said Omer Pignatti, a
    spokesman for Conad, a chain of supermarkets in Italy. "There isn't
    any on the Italian market and we don't foresee any such initiatives."

    Surveys seem to bear out his assessment.

    "We've seen low-carb to be an entirely U.S. phenomenon," said Lynn
    Dornblaser, director of consulting services for London-based Mintel
    International Group, Ltd.

    Dornblaser was among those presenting a country-by-country survey of
    low-carb products at a food industry meeting in Las Vegas, Nev.,
    earlier this month.

    In the United States, the number of new low-carb products ballooned
    from two in 1999 to 1,329 so far this year, the survey found.

    Continental Europe saw few such products being introduced until this
    year, when a U.S.-based company which sells low-carb bagels, buns,
    cheesecakes and other products, began offering its fare via the
    Internet to Europe.

    In Britain, new low-carb products sharply rose from five last year to
    159 in 2004. Among the items are "no-bread" sandwiches sold by a
    popular sandwich chain, Pret a Manger.

    "We did this very much in response to basically the low-carb fever
    that was sort of coming over here," Nellie Nichols, Pret a Manger's
    head of food, said of the product, which is sold in square boxes to
    resemble sandwiches. "They are going down very, very well."

    "Carbs have become the devil's work, haven't they?" said Matt Hind,
    25, a trainee lawyer buying his lunch in central London. "I think
    people are always looking for quick fixes when it comes to weight."

    With obesity a matter for mounting concern in Britain, the tabloids
    there sprinkle their pages with names of celebrities going low-carb,
    including, reportedly, singer Robbie Williams, former Spice Girl Geri
    Halliwell, actress Minnie Driver and food writer/celebrity chef
    Nigella Lawson.

    Asked why low-carbs haven't caught on in most of Europe, Dornblaser,
    who works out of Mintel's Chicago office, said Europeans "have got a
    better understanding of portion control," as well as balance and
    variety in diet.

    "In the U.S., rightly or wrongly, we like to have a magic pill."

    Correspondents in London, Paris, Warsaw, Madrid, Amsterdam and
    Frankfurt contributed to this report.

  3. Quoted message said:

    The carbs eaten in europe (excluding britain) are primarily
    non-refined or much less refined. And they are eaten with lots of fat

    False. We have very little unrefined carbs here!

    Quoted message said:

    which lowers the average glyceamic load of any given meal. A much
    ignored part of the western problem is not just the increased
    consumption of refined carbs but the restricting of satiating fats and
    proteins. And these europeans (with the exception of the lastest
    generation of children) drink much less soda which contains the
    dreaded hfcs.

    Low-carb diets restrict refined sugars, refined flours and some high
    GI load tubers. One has to have a diet high in these crappy carbs
    first in order to need to adjust the carbs down.

    I would think that by now you would know enough about low-carb diets
    to understand the fact that low-carbers eat plenty of good carbs like
    fresh veggies and fruits and plenty of good fats to help with
    sataiation and to lower the average GI load of a meal.

    Quoted message said:

    You know, you embarass yourself every time you try to make these kinds
    of idiotic arguments.

    He did not. He just posted an article. That is difference.

    Mirek

  4. Two things from that post that explain a lot with respect to the
    obesity problem that exists in North America are the following:

    1. "Europeans like to walk, even when they have no place to go."

    2. "Asked why low-carbs haven't caught on in most of Europe,
    Dornblaser, who works out of Mintel's Chicago office, said
    Europeans "have got a better understanding of portion control," as
    well as balance and variety in diet."

    That is basically it in a nutshell! They (Europeans) are more active
    and eat less! I know words like "walk", "run", "cycle" and "exercise"
    have become four-letter words here in Canada and the United States.

    Also the way they eat has to do with their eating less at each meal.
    The Europeans don't wolf down their food but rather take their time.
    We all know what happens when you eat slowly. Your brain actually has
    time to get the message that you are starting to get full. People that
    wolf down their food will always consume more calories, but this isn't
    news. We've known this for some time now.

    Regards.

    Rob

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