[email protected] (Jan) wrote:
<snip stuff with too many carets to bother with>
>>Which committee am I on, Jan? Please answer carefully, because you will be called a LIAR if you
>>are wrong.
>
>If you don't know what commitee you are on, please get help.
>
>(the Health Claims and Consumer Protection Advisory Committee)
I am not a member of any committee with that name. A woman who works with Jennie Burke is a
member of a committee with a name like that. She must be trying to shut down quackery. Complain
to Jennie Burke.
>Better known as the Anti-Quackery committee.
>
>Quackery (in your world) being anything not endorsed by *organized medicine*
Quackery, in my world, being fraudulent "cures" which have no possibility of working and which are
designed to steal money from unsuspecting people. Remember that the committee you don't like was set
up as a direct result of a naturopath killing a child.
>The word Protection is a lie, just like it is on Barrett's website. If you were protecting
>the public, you would list the biggest killers, the most needless mistakes, the adverse
>effect of drugs.
I have paid my VERY OWN money to be a member of an organisation looking at those very things. What
patient safety organisations are you a member of, Jan? I didn't think so. All talk, no action.
>Instead, organized medicine goes after people like Dr. Kadile, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NOT ONE SINGLE
>PATIENT COMPLAINT.
It is very rare for the victims of murder to complain, yet the police prosecute murderers all the
time. Perhaps Alan Yurko should have used the Kadile Defence - the baby didn't complain.
>That little tid bit tells us all we need to know.
>
>Plus the fact that Barrett and his ilk are NOT qualified to judge. They are heavily biased and not
>credible.
I believe that Dr Barrett has similar qualifications to Dr Burzynski. Dr Baratz, who you have
vilified in this very newsgroup as being an inadequate witness in the Kadile hearing has the degrees
of MD, DDS and PhD. I assume you are now agreeing that he is "qualified to judge", or are you
selective about whose degrees you accept and whose you don't? (Rhetorical question.)
>So where does that leave YOU?????
I do not understand the question.
<snip irrelevant material apparently sourced from some anti-amalgam
loon>
>>>I don't really care *where* he got it. His works stand on thier own.
>>
>>So it wouldn't matter to you if he got it by sending $10 to someone who offered to print a
>>certificate?
>
>I repeat:
>
>>I don't really care *where* he got it. His works stand on thier own.
>>
><snip diversion of people Peter doesn't like>
So, Jan, you don't care if he got it out of a corn flakes box. It is a better PhD than that of, say,
Dr Baratz. I'm glad we cleared that up.
>>From 1970 to 1977, he served as a researcher and assistant professor at the
>>>Baylor School of Medicine in Houston, Texas, where his research was
>>sponsored
>>>and partially funded by the National Cancer Institute. In May 1977 he
>>founded
>>>the Burzynski Clinic in Houston where he has treated over 8,000 patients. He also serves as
>>>director of the Burzynski Research Institute, where he
>>continues
>>>to pursue scientific research on causes and treatments for cancer. Dr. Burzynski, is the author
>>>and co-author of 182 scientific publications and is the recipient of numerous prestigious awards.
>>>He currently
>holds 160 patents in
>>>35 countries for his treatments and inventions, and he has been the subject
>>of many articles and interviews.
>
>>Only 9 of those 182 "scientific publications" were worth publishing.
>
>Prove it. You are famous for lying.
Go to
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=PubMed
Search for 'burzynski sr"
See where it says "Items 1-20 of 38"
Look at all the ones where "Burzynski, SR" is listed as author. If he wrote them all it would only
be 38, not 182. As it happens, he wrote 9 of them.
><snip, sigh, more of the same belittling>
>
>>>Other groups have replicated and expanded Dr. Burzynski’s work, including
>>the
>>>National Cancer Institute, the Medical College of Georgia, the Imperial
>>College
>>>of London and the University of Kurume Medical School in Japan
>>
>
>>And this replication was published where? National Inquirer?
>>
>Since you are so interested, find out.
>
>Whasamatter, Peter, well run dry??
You are the one talking about all this replication. Surely you know where evidence of it can be
found. I have told you how to find out about Burzynski's 9 (not 182) publications. Your turn to tell
me something.
>>>He was vindicated of all the trumpted up charges by certain witch hunters.
>>>
>>>Since that didn't work, you are looking for another dirty tactic, is that correct, Peter??
>>
>>Is this sort of thing why there is a meeting in Las Vegas??
>
>
>>The program for the meeting in Las Vegas can be seen at
http://www.randi.org/jref/tamii.html
>
>Oh, OK, thanks. Looks like a big belittling party.
Who will Ian Rowland and Phil Plait be belittling? Who will Jerry Andrus and Jamy Ian Swiss be
belittling? Details please.
>*We'll have two important speakers informing us on the present state of quackery. Dr. Steve
>Barrett, of www.Quackwatch.com fame will describe the situation in the USA, and Peter Bowditch,
>from Australia, will bring Down Under Quackery, way Up Top for us.*
>
>WOW!! I feel so confident that Barrett will tell the truth of the situtation in the USA. Will he be
>telling that no naturopathy practitioner can be trusted??
I hope he does.
>Or that no further research needs done??
Why would he say that? I don't think he believes it.
>Oh well, everyone there are of the same mindset.
There are still places available, I believe. You are welcome to attend.
>You will be telling all about quackery, but have no medical training.
Why should that matter to you? After all, you have said that the audience will be "all of the
same mindset".
>What a bunch of hypocrites.
>
>I am sure Satan will be very pleased.
I'll ask him.
>>In a three-day conference, a total of 1 hour seems to be devoted to the destruction of all
>>alternative medicine, but as it's Dr Barrett and me doing the destroying and we have super powers
>>delegated to us by Satan I suppose that's all that is needed. The magicians and creationist-
>>stompers are just there as support acts.
>>
>That's probably as truthful as you have been all year.
It's just as well that I have programmed my computer to turn off the irony meter whenever I open one
of your posts, otherwise you would owe me. Are you really so dumb that you didn't see that what I
said was sarcasm? Don't answer that.
>>>His background is in the medical field, his accomplishments are listed.
>>>
>>>What makes you think you with NO medical background are qualified to judge him??
>>
>>What is your medical background?
>
>Just my own personal health experience. However, I am not faking it by being on an advisory
>committee, I'm not qualified, and neither are you.
Dr Barrett has medical training. I am glad you now agree that he is competent to give advice about
medical matters.
>Ready to answer my question now??
>
>>Is EOM scared to death he does have a cure???
>>
>>EOM will give him a Nobel Prize as soon as he produces some results.
>
>Liar liar liar.
>
>>The role you play was exposed.
>
>>>While people continue to suffer, you are playing power games.
>
>>I was just thinking about 8,000 people who suffered while connected up to a mass of tubing, some
>>of it to administer **** extracts into the bloodstream, others to drain the contents of wallets.
>>These people continue to suffer until this very day. Those of them who are not dead, of course.
>
>Oh? Some of his patients disagree with you, and they have first hand experience.
Have you seen the testimonials from the dead ones?
>
http://www.burzynskipatientgroup.org/stories.htm
Why do you believe Dr Burzynski's advertising material?
>Furthermore all of your tricks have been tried, they failed.
>
>
http://www.garynull.com/Documents/spectrum/dr_burzynski_vindicated.htm
>
>>>However, there is a judge with all the correct qualifications who will judge each and everyone,
>>>some day.
>>>
>>>Yes, he will even judge Satan, his powers will be stripped.
>>
>>But until that day ...
>>
>Yes??
>
>>>He introduced the power game with Eve, he has been and is successful in deceiving.
>
>>That *****, Eve!
>
>Say what??
I was agreeing with you. It all started with Eve. Satan used her and has been using women
ever since.
>>Is it any wonder that God decreed that women should be subservient to men and should not have
>>Internet access.
>
>Are you LYING again?
Do you possess a scintilla of metaphorical thought?
><snip trash speak>
The "trash speak" is worth repeating, as it further highlights Jan's inability to comprehend
abstraction:
"Only pretend women like Ilsa, Nana, Marla and Debbbbeeeee are allowed to post. All posters are men.
Just ask Aribert Deckers."
>>>We see his works here, sometimes causing people to talk out of both sides of their mouths.
>>>
>
>>God will not judge according to anyone's degree, what they have done for
>humanity, plus their faith and love for him will come into play.
>>
>>Then Burzynski, Scheibner and Clark had better have asbestos shrouds.
>
>And Peter Bowditch??
You have declared me an atheist. Why should an atheist have any fear of Hell?
>>Think about it, before it is too late.
>>>
>>>Jan
>
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