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  1. ............I also do not believe the governing bodies of the sports such as
    the UCI or USA cycling should have any input on setting policies on how the
    sports are regulated in terms of policing doping and administering the
    tests. You cannot have the fox guarding the hen house, there is a built in
    conflict of interest. Some athletes have called for the elimination of WADA
    and the UCI and I don't agree. The athletes who have been caught are usually
    those that think these organizations have a grand conspiracy going on but I
    just don't believe that is happening. It seems that when an American gets
    caught they blame it on the French and the labs. The other athletes that
    have been caught from other nations don't ever blame a country or lab of
    even the "French conspiracy".

    WADA has been a crucial part of what's going on and it is WADA that has put
    the pressure on the many sports federations to change. A lot of people in
    the cycling world like to criticize WADA but they criticize it because it
    keeps hitting right at the truth of the matter. [censored] Pound takes a lot of
    criticism from the cycling world but he knows exactly what is going on in
    our sport and a lot of implicated athletes just want to shoot the messenger.

    The sport of cycling, and many sports for that matter, is at a crossroads,
    either we have sports as we used to know and love them or it becomes pure
    entertainment and anything goes. I know that personally, I would not want my
    children to race in the current professional peloton and if it is the
    "anything goes", as some think it should be, I would not want to have
    anything to do with the sport. I do hope that the current crisis in cycling
    will wake the world of cycling and force the sport to change, or we will see
    a slow death of the sport.

    WADA is taking some very good steps toward solving the problem. They are
    trying to work with Interpol, which is a worldwide police agency. It is
    groups like WADA that I hope will get governments to criminalize doping.
    Right now you can get fined by your federation or governing body but what if
    it was made a felony in every country to be doping? I'm a big believer in
    plea bargains like they do in our criminal justice system but if an athlete
    takes drugs and is not willing to come out clean on the whole system, how it
    is working, then you get kicked out for life. If a rider cooperates then
    they can come back and race after a reduced punishment period has been
    served. Perhaps you give them a second chance because it's not just the
    riders that are involved in this sophisticated doping program it's the team
    managers, the sponsors, and many others who are pressuring the rider to do
    the program.

    I think that what Frankie Andreu did recently is really the right step, the
    right direction for things. I heard rumors that USADA might penalize him and
    that would be the worst message to send to the world of sports. I understand
    why he felt the need to come forward and hope that any penalty he receives
    is symbolic. He made a mistake and is now trying to lead the way towards
    honesty in cycling and I respect that.

    Pez: I had read that his old team might penalize him.

    GL: I don't believe his team will ever go there, I don't think they will
    want to open up that can of worms and the talk of penalties is all just PR.
    ............
    http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4446

  2. Does anybody really care what Lemond has to say about anything at this
    point? He's not even as relevant as LANCE.

    ~bob

    B. Lafferty said:

    ...........I also do not believe the governing bodies of the sports such as
    the UCI or USA cycling should have any input on setting policies on how the
    sports are regulated in terms of policing doping and administering the
    tests. You cannot have the fox guarding the hen house, there is a built in
    conflict of interest. Some athletes have called for the elimination of WADA
    and the UCI and I don't agree. The athletes who have been caught are usually
    those that think these organizations have a grand conspiracy going on but I
    just don't believe that is happening. It seems that when an American gets
    caught they blame it on the French and the labs. The other athletes that
    have been caught from other nations don't ever blame a country or lab of
    even the "French conspiracy".

    WADA has been a crucial part of what's going on and it is WADA that has put
    the pressure on the many sports federations to change. A lot of people in
    the cycling world like to criticize WADA but they criticize it because it
    keeps hitting right at the truth of the matter. [censored] Pound takes a lot of
    criticism from the cycling world but he knows exactly what is going on in
    our sport and a lot of implicated athletes just want to shoot the messenger.

    The sport of cycling, and many sports for that matter, is at a crossroads,
    either we have sports as we used to know and love them or it becomes pure
    entertainment and anything goes. I know that personally, I would not want my
    children to race in the current professional peloton and if it is the
    "anything goes", as some think it should be, I would not want to have
    anything to do with the sport. I do hope that the current crisis in cycling
    will wake the world of cycling and force the sport to change, or we will see
    a slow death of the sport.

    WADA is taking some very good steps toward solving the problem. They are
    trying to work with Interpol, which is a worldwide police agency. It is
    groups like WADA that I hope will get governments to criminalize doping.
    Right now you can get fined by your federation or governing body but what if
    it was made a felony in every country to be doping? I'm a big believer in
    plea bargains like they do in our criminal justice system but if an athlete
    takes drugs and is not willing to come out clean on the whole system, how it
    is working, then you get kicked out for life. If a rider cooperates then
    they can come back and race after a reduced punishment period has been
    served. Perhaps you give them a second chance because it's not just the
    riders that are involved in this sophisticated doping program it's the team
    managers, the sponsors, and many others who are pressuring the rider to do
    the program.

    I think that what Frankie Andreu did recently is really the right step, the
    right direction for things. I heard rumors that USADA might penalize him and
    that would be the worst message to send to the world of sports. I understand
    why he felt the need to come forward and hope that any penalty he receives
    is symbolic. He made a mistake and is now trying to lead the way towards
    honesty in cycling and I respect that.

    Pez: I had read that his old team might penalize him.

    GL: I don't believe his team will ever go there, I don't think they will
    want to open up that can of worms and the talk of penalties is all just PR.
    ...........
    http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=4446

  3. B. Lafferty said:

    ...........I also do not believe the governing bodies of the sports such as
    the UCI or USA cycling should have any input on setting policies on how the
    sports are regulated in terms of policing doping and administering the
    tests. You cannot have the fox guarding the hen house, there is a built in
    conflict of interest. Some athletes have called for the elimination of WADA
    and the UCI and I don't agree. The athletes who have been caught are usually
    those that think these organizations have a grand conspiracy going on but I
    just don't believe that is happening. It seems that when an American gets
    caught they blame it on the French and the labs. The other athletes that
    have been caught from other nations don't ever blame a country or lab of
    even the "French conspiracy".

    WADA has been a crucial part of what's going on and it is WADA that has put
    the pressure on the many sports federations to change. A lot of people in
    the cycling world like to criticize WADA but they criticize it because it
    keeps hitting right at the truth of the matter. [censored] Pound takes a lot of
    criticism from the cycling world but he knows exactly what is going on in
    our sport and a lot of implicated athletes just want to shoot the messenger.

    A messenger's purpose is to deliver an accurate, intelligible and credible
    reading of pertinent information to the correct party.

    None of that describes [censored] Pound's actions.

    Ron

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    bob sullivan said:

    Does anybody really care what Lemond has to say about anything at this
    point? He's not even as relevant as LANCE.

    I definitely care. What makes him someone not to listen to?

  5. chiefhiawatha said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    bob sullivan said:

    Does anybody really care what Lemond has to say about anything at this
    point? He's not even as relevant as LANCE.

    I definitely care. What makes him someone not to listen to?

    I think he represents the Dark Side very well.

    "We had to burn the village to save it".

    "Cycling is at a crossroads". Yeah, since Tommy Simpson died. So, let's
    hurry up and get this doping thing fixed... --D-y

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