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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

    Om requested:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > IMHO Chili goes best with cornbread.
    >
    > Would it be possible to create a cornbread bowl???

    As discussed further in the thread, cornbread probably wouldn't hold
    together well enough to make a free-standing bread bowl. But the
    Williams-Sonoma "Bread" cookbook has a recipe for Portuguese Bread which
    is kind of halfway between cornbread and white bread. THAT would probably
    work fine.

    Bob

    Recipe? :-)

    I'm at work right now; I'll try to post it when I get home (or in the next
    couple of days, since my free time during the workweek is severely
    constrained).

    Bob

    I know I could google for it, but I assume you had something specific in
    mind. If you get time, that's cool and if not, I more than
    understand!!!!!

    Free time is almost an oxymoron for me. <lol>
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  2. Bob Terwilliger said:
    Jill said:

    Bread bowls are good for all sorts of soup, however the bowls seem
    to mesh best with creamy type soups. Chicken noodle just doesn't
    seem like a great candidate for a bread bowl, know what I mean?
    (laughing) I do think these would be great for chili! Or New
    England clam chowder.

    Bacon-broccoli-cheese soup and ham-corn chowder are both magnificent
    in bread bowls.

    Bob

    Ooooh! I want to know how to make bacon-broccoli-cheese soup!

    Jill

  3. Om wrote about the recipe for Portuguese bread:

    Quoted message said:

    I know I could google for it, but I assume you had something specific in
    mind. If you get time, that's cool and if not, I more than
    understand!!!!!

    Free time is almost an oxymoron for me. <lol>

    My workweek ends just about 24 hours from now. :-)

    Bob

  4. Jill said:

    Ooooh! I want to know how to make bacon-broccoli-cheese soup!

    Peel the stem of a head of broccoli, then chop the entire head into fairly
    small dice (between a half-inch and a quarter-inch dice, but there's no need
    to be precise).

    In a wide skillet with a fair amount of depth to it, cook 6 pieces of bacon
    until crisp. Remove the bacon from the pan and crumble. Measure how much
    fat is left in the pan and add that same amount of flour, whisking, until
    the lumps are mostly gone. (When I say "measure" I mean that I just eyeball
    it and add about that same amount of flour.) While continuing to whisk,
    slowly add a pint of milk, pausing at intervals to whisk all the lumps out.
    (The mixture should come to a boil.) Lower the heat to medium-low and
    little by little, add 1 1/2 cups of shredded cheddar cheese and another pint
    of milk, alternating the milk and cheese additions. (The cheese should
    melt, but the mixture should NOT boil.) When all the milk and cheese have
    been added, add the broccoli and crumbled bacon. Cook over low heat until
    the broccoli has softened, about 10 minutes. If the soup is too thick, you
    can add more milk to thin it, or you can add beer.

    Bob

  5. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    jmcquown said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Bread bowls are good for all sorts of soup, however the bowls seem
    > to mesh best with creamy type soups. Chicken noodle just doesn't
    > seem like a great candidate for a bread bowl, know what I mean?
    > (laughing) I do think these would be great for chili! Or New
    > England clam chowder.
    >
    > Jill
    >
    >

    OMG! You just gave me an idea...

    IMHO Chili goes best with cornbread.

    Would it be possible to create a cornbread bowl???

    Why not? Hmmm. I'd look for a small roundish cast iron pots (think
    small "witches" cauldrons?). Bake the cornbread, let it cool. Cut
    off the top, carefully scoop out the middle (oooh, cornbread for
    crumbs for turkey or pork chop stuffing/dressing). Brush the inside
    of the "bowl" with melted butter (I'd have to skip the olive oil and
    garlic treatment; the texture of cornbread wouldn't work with that)
    and toast the bowls. Then fill with chili and serve. How's that?

    Jill

    Sounds fantabulous! :-)
    Nice presentation too just to leave them in the little cast iron
    cauldrons. I know I have a couple of those around, but I'd have to
    clean them really well.

    They are full of sand. I've been using them to burn incense powder on
    those charcoal block thingies. <G>

    Cheers!

    Someone here recently picked up one of those at a yard sale - it's a potjie?
    Little cauldron. Very cute. I wouldn't mind being served chili in a
    cornbread bowl in one, especially around All Hallows Eve!

    http://www.mysticconvergence.com/store/view_product.php?product=NT-Many

    Jill

  6. Bob Terwilliger said:
    Jill said:

    Ooooh! I want to know how to make bacon-broccoli-cheese soup!

    Peel the stem of a head of broccoli, then chop the entire head into
    fairly small dice (between a half-inch and a quarter-inch dice, but
    there's no need to be precise).

    In a wide skillet with a fair amount of depth to it, cook 6 pieces of
    bacon until crisp. Remove the bacon from the pan and crumble.
    Measure how much fat is left in the pan and add that same amount of
    flour, whisking, until the lumps are mostly gone. (When I say
    "measure" I mean that I just eyeball it and add about that same
    amount of flour.) While continuing to whisk, slowly add a pint of
    milk, pausing at intervals to whisk all the lumps out. (The mixture
    should come to a boil.) Lower the heat to medium-low and little by
    little, add 1 1/2 cups of shredded cheddar cheese and another pint of
    milk, alternating the milk and cheese additions. (The cheese should
    melt, but the mixture should NOT boil.) When all the milk and cheese
    have been added, add the broccoli and crumbled bacon. Cook over low
    heat until the broccoli has softened, about 10 minutes. If the soup
    is too thick, you can add more milk to thin it, or you can add beer.

    Bob

    Woo hoo! Thanks! It's about time for some beer-cheese soup, too. Gotta
    dig my recipe out for that. Would be great in a bread bowl!

    Jill

  7. jmcquown said:

    Someone here recently picked up one of those at a yard sale - it's a
    potjie? Little cauldron. Very cute. I wouldn't mind being served
    chili in a cornbread bowl in one, especially around All Hallows Eve!

    http://www.mysticconvergence.com/store/view_product.php?product=NT-


    Many

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

    Those are NICE!

    The smallest ones would be neat to serve french onion soup in. Probably
    stay hot forever.

    That large beast... 160 lbs.!!! That's gotta be a pita to move. I'm
    thinkin' jambalaya!

    Andy

  8. Andy said:
    jmcquown said:

    Someone here recently picked up one of those at a yard sale - it's a
    potjie? Little cauldron. Very cute. I wouldn't mind being served
    chili in a cornbread bowl in one, especially around All Hallows Eve!

    http://www.mysticconvergence.com/store/view_product.php?product=NT-
    Many

    Jill

    Those are NICE!

    The smallest ones would be neat to serve french onion soup in.
    Probably stay hot forever.


    Probably so... and please be careful not to burn yourself. Each bowl would
    need to be accompanied with a hot pad!

    Quoted message said:

    That large beast... 160 lbs.!!! That's gotta be a pita to move. I'm
    thinkin' jambalaya!

    Andy

    You'd be thinking about a LOT of jambalaya! How about a really big pot of
    red beans & rice?

    Jill

  9. jmcquown said:

    You'd be thinking about a LOT of jambalaya! How about a really big
    pot of red beans & rice?

    OK!

    Andy

  10. Om said:
    Quoted message said:

    the Williams-Sonoma "Bread" cookbook has a recipe for Portuguese Bread
    which is >> kind of halfway between cornbread and white bread.

    Recipe? :-)

    Portuguese Corn Bread
    from Williams-Sonoma's _Breads_

    1 cup (5 oz/150 g) yellow cornmeal, plus extra for pan
    1 teaspoon salt
    1 cup ( 8 fl oz/250 ml) boiling water
    1 tablespoon corn oil
    1 1/2 - 2 cups (7 1/2 - 10 oz/ 235-315 g) unbleached bread flour
    1 1/2 teaspoon quick-rise yeast

    In a large bowl or the bowl of an electric stand mixer, 1/2 cup (2 1/2 oz/75
    g) of the cornmeal, the salt, and the boiling water. Stir until smooth.
    Stir in the corn oil and let cool to lukewarm (110°F/43°C). Stir in the
    remaining cornmeal, 1/2 cup (2 1/2 oz/75 g) of the flour, and the yeast.
    Cover with plastic wrap and let rise in a warm place until doubled in size,
    30-45 minutes.

    Stir to deflate the dough and gradually stir in 1 cup (5 oz/155 g) more
    flour.

    Knead by hand or with a dough hook, adding flour as necessary. Knead by
    hand until smooth and elastic, about 10 minutes; knead by hook until dough
    is not stick and pulls cleanly from bowl sides, 6-7 minutes. The dough
    should be firm but not stiff.

    Form the dough into a ball, stretching the sides down and under. Sprinkle a
    heavy baking sheet with cornmeal and put the dough on it. Cover loosely
    with greased plastic wrap and let rise until doubled in size, 45-60 minutes.

    Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C).

    Uncover the loaf and place the baking sheet in the oven. Using a spray
    bottle, spritz the oven floor and sides with water. (This creates steam,
    which helps to form a crisp crust.) Bake until golden brown and loaf sounds
    hollow when tapped on the bottom, 35-45 minutes. Transfer to a wire rack to
    cool.

    Bob

  11. Many thanks!!!
    Got that saved to my "nutrition" file...

    Cheers!

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:


    Portuguese Corn Bread
    from Williams-Sonoma's _Breads_

    1 cup (5 oz/150 g) yellow cornmeal, plus extra for pan
    1 teaspoon salt
    1 cup ( 8 fl oz/250 ml) boiling water
    1 tablespoon corn oil
    1 1/2 - 2 cups (7 1/2 - 10 oz/ 235-315 g) unbleached bread flour
    1 1/2 teaspoon quick-rise yeast

    In a large bowl or the bowl of an electric stand mixer, 1/2 cup (2 1/2 oz/75
    g) of the cornmeal, the salt, and the boiling water. Stir until smooth.
    Stir in the corn oil and let cool to lukewarm (110°F/43°C). Stir in the
    remaining cornmeal, 1/2 cup (2 1/2 oz/75 g) of the flour, and the yeast.
    Cover with plastic wrap and let rise in a warm place until doubled in size,
    30-45 minutes.

    Stir to deflate the dough and gradually stir in 1 cup (5 oz/155 g) more
    flour.

    Knead by hand or with a dough hook, adding flour as necessary. Knead by
    hand until smooth and elastic, about 10 minutes; knead by hook until dough
    is not stick and pulls cleanly from bowl sides, 6-7 minutes. The dough
    should be firm but not stiff.

    Form the dough into a ball, stretching the sides down and under. Sprinkle a
    heavy baking sheet with cornmeal and put the dough on it. Cover loosely
    with greased plastic wrap and let rise until doubled in size, 45-60 minutes.

    Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C).

    Uncover the loaf and place the baking sheet in the oven. Using a spray
    bottle, spritz the oven floor and sides with water. (This creates steam,
    which helps to form a crisp crust.) Bake until golden brown and loaf sounds
    hollow when tapped on the bottom, 35-45 minutes. Transfer to a wire rack to
    cool.

    Bob


    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  12. "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Wayne said:
    Quoted message said:

    Make your own! Split it, put in some chocolate chips and heat until
    the croissant crisps and the chocolate is gooey. Personally, I like
    my croissants plain with jam, but hubby and kids do the chocolate
    thing on occasion.

    Well, I don't think I'm up to making my own croissants and the few I've
    bought since I moved to AZ have been like orgindary "bread" on the


    inside,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    no
    flakiness at all. Ugh! Besides, I think the results are different when


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    small "slab" of bittersweet chocolate is slip inside the formed


    croissant

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    before baking.

    Making croissants isn't really all that difficult, and I think it's WELL
    worth the effort. The book _Baking With Julia_ gives what I consider a
    foolproof recipe for chocolate croissants. (In fact, that entire book is
    outstanding. The brioche recipe alone is worth the price of the book.)

    Bob


    The brioche is wonderful! Take it a step further and make the pecan sticky
    buns recipe. These are beyond decadent and utterly delicious. The first
    time I made them I thought that my Kitchen Aid was going to break and that
    nothing was worth this much effort. I served them to my best friend's 85
    year old mother and she exclaimed "I can die now".

    Kate

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright said:

    Well, I don't think I'm up to making my own croissants and the few I've
    bought since I moved to AZ have been like orgindary "bread" on the inside, no
    flakiness at all. Ugh! Besides, I think the results are different when a
    small "slab" of bittersweet chocolate is slip inside the formed croissant
    before baking.

    Do you have a bread machine? The recipe I use makes the dough in the
    machine, and then you just do the rolling out and folding with the
    butter. They've turned out lovely every time. 🙂

    Regards,
    Ranee

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  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright said:

    Sometimes I toss together some chocolate chips and some toasted pecans or
    walnuts (cooled). Put in a bowl for snacking. The snacking goes very
    quickly. :-)

    I add dried cherries to that mix. 🙂

    Regards,
    Ranee

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  15. On Mon 17 Oct 2005 09:55:57a, Ranee Mueller wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright said:

    Well, I don't think I'm up to making my own croissants and the few I've
    bought since I moved to AZ have been like orgindary "bread" on the
    inside, no flakiness at all. Ugh! Besides, I think the results are
    different when a small "slab" of bittersweet chocolate is slip inside
    the formed croissant before baking.

    Do you have a bread machine? The recipe I use makes the dough in the
    machine, and then you just do the rolling out and folding with the
    butter. They've turned out lovely every time. 🙂

    No, I don't have a bread machine, but I do have a 70s vintage KitchenAid
    K5. Actually, I've made these croissants before, but it seems lately that
    I'm on a daily "time crunch" with no spare time for working with dough.
    When I get a break, this is probably one of the first things I will make.

    Thanks!

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  16. Ranee Mueller said:

    Do you have a bread machine? The recipe I use makes the dough in the
    machine, and then you just do the rolling out and folding with the
    butter. They've turned out lovely every time. 🙂

    Ranee could you share your recipe for croissants? TIA

  17. On Mon 17 Oct 2005 09:57:14a, Ranee Mueller wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Wayne Boatwright said:

    Sometimes I toss together some chocolate chips and some toasted pecans or
    walnuts (cooled). Put in a bowl for snacking. The snacking goes very
    quickly. :-)

    I add dried cherries to that mix. 🙂

    Gosh, why didn't I think of that. That's a magic combination!

    Thank, Ranee.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
    ____________________________________________

    Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
    Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

  18. On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:47:47 -0400, "Dee Randall"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <BIG SNIP>

    Quoted message said:

    Me -- I want that long chocolate thingie that has no translation. Ah hum!
    Chocolate chips are dangerous to keep around my house. First thing I know,
    I'm into the package/jar full-fist.

    You would not do well in this household. I still have about 4/5ths of
    the 25 pounds of chocolate chips I bought last year before Christmas
    :-)

    TammyM

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    ~patches~ said:
    Ranee Mueller said:

    Do you have a bread machine? The recipe I use makes the dough in the
    machine, and then you just do the rolling out and folding with the
    butter. They've turned out lovely every time. 🙂

    Ranee could you share your recipe for croissants? TIA

    It's not my recipe. 🙂 I use the feather light croissants from
    Rustic European Breads from Your Bread Machine. I leave off the egg
    wash. I've used it several times and always had them turn out
    wonderfully. I got my copy of the book used on Amazon, for about half
    the price of the book. I can type up the recipe for you later, but am
    just checking the group now while dinner is cooking.

    Regards,
    Ranee

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  20. Jill said:

    Someone here recently picked up one of those at a yard sale - it's a
    potjie? Little cauldron. Very cute. I wouldn't mind being served chili
    in a cornbread bowl in one, especially around All Hallows Eve!

    http://www.mysticconvergence.com/store/view_product.php?product=NT-Many

    Korean cuisine has a dish called "Bi Bim Bap," which is rice and various
    other items served in a sizzling-hot bowl made either of stone or iron.
    Those bowls would probably work well for making the cornbread soup-shell I'm
    envisioning in this thread.

    (Man, I should *not* read this NG right when I get to work! Now I want Bi
    Bim Bap, and I won't be getting off work for another 10 hours!)

    Bob

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