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  1. alternativescience.comscientific myths.htm

    Dr David Horrobin, then Director of the Efamol Research Institute in Canada, writing in the New
    Scientist in 1982, said; "Lay organisations whether charities or governments, do not fund medical
    research for the sake of culture. They provide money because they believe that practical benefits
    will follow. It is gradually dawning on the donors that for the past 20 years practical benefits
    have not followed. During that time there have been no substantial improvements in morbidity or
    mortality from major diseases that can be attributed to public funding of medical research. The much
    vaunted successes in some relatively rare cancers, such as Hodgkins' disease, derive from
    refinements of discoveries that were made in the mid-1950s. The only substantial advances have come
    from the pharmaceutical industry. Even there, the foundation is so shaky that the two biggest
    successes, the beta blockers (now widely used in treating hypertension) and the histamine-2
    anatagonists (effective against stomach ulcers), had to come from the mind of one man, Jim Black".

    Horrobin is not alone in his assessment and neither have things changed materially in the decade
    since he wrote these words. Take the fight against cancer, for example. In the new England Journal
    of Medicine in 1986, Dr John Bailar of the Harvard Medical School and Dr Elaine Smith of the
    University of Iowa Medical Centre asked what progress we have made against cancer in the three
    decades from 1950 to 1982? Their conclusion was that;

    "We are losing the war against cancer, notwithstanding progress against several uncommon forms of
    the disease, improvements in palliation, and extension of the productive years of life. A shift in
    research emphasis, from research on treatment to research on prevention, seems necessary if
    substantial progress against cancer is to be forthcoming."

    The two researchers found that in the United States from 1950 to 1982 the overall rate of death due
    to cancer had actually increased by 8.5 per cent and this during a period of unprecedented
    expenditure on research and clinical investigation.

    These findings, of course, contrast sharply with the picture painted by governments and by some
    research funding agencies, and the results were hotly disputed. But the U.S. General Accounting
    Office, in April 1987, published figures that confirmed there had been little or no improvement in
    patient survival for the 12 most common cancers from 1950 to 1982, despite expenditure of $1,000
    million a year on research.

    The picture is no different in the United Kingdom. There has been some welcome progress in
    understanding how cancer attacks the body and a few of the more uncommon forms have shown dramatic
    evidence of improved treatment, such as leukemias and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. But there has been
    almost no change in very common and widespread forms of the disease such as cancer of the breast and
    lungs in women, or prostate and bladder in men. At the same time, the incidence of cancer has
    increased considerably, offsetting the gains that have been made.

    Amongst British men, for instance, there were 2,721 deaths per million from cancers of all types
    between 1971-1975: compared with 2,970 deaths per million in 1981-1985, an increase of 9 per cent.
    For women, the increase over the same period was even higher, at 14 per cent.

    In the February 1991 Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine, Dennis Burkitt, who discovered the
    link between cancer and lack of dietary fibre, wrote that, 'Little real success has been achieved,'
    and that 'most cancer research is misdirected.' Burkitt called for a new strategy focussing on
    prevention because, 'medicine has waged a major war against cancer, concentrating on earlier
    diagnosis and improved therapy. The war is not being won.'

    Anth

  2. The Myth of Longer Life

    But what about medical science? Haven't the breath-taking discoveries of the past century cured many
    of the worst diseases that beset mankind? Do we not stand a much better chance of surviving illness
    today thanks to science? And aren't we living longer as a result? The answer is profoundly shocking
    to anyone who takes it for granted that the billions we have spent on medical research have made a
    big difference to the incidence of disease and death. First, life expectancy at age 45 has barely
    changed since the beginning of this century. The statistical increase in life expectancy overall
    during that period has come about because there used to be a high incidence of disease and death in
    babies and children which has been eliminated by measures such as smaller families, better hygiene,
    birth in hospital instead of home, antibiotics, and health education.

    Most of these preventive factors were in place and fully effective 30 or 40 years ago. Their effect
    has been such that life expectancy at any age has not changed significantly in the past 20 years.
    Yet, in that 20 year period, Britain has spent around £2,000 million on medical research.

    (I've not checked these quotes) Anth

  3. "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The Myth of Longer Life

    But what about medical science? Haven't the breath-taking discoveries of the past century cured
    many of the worst diseases that beset mankind? Do


    we

    Quoted message said:

    not stand a much better chance of surviving illness today thanks to


    science?

    Quoted message said:

    And aren't we living longer as a result? The answer is profoundly shocking to anyone who takes it
    for granted that the billions we have spent on medical research have made a big difference


    to

    Quoted message said:

    the incidence of disease and death. First, life expectancy at age 45 has barely changed since the
    beginning of this century. The statistical


    increase

    Quoted message said:

    in life expectancy overall during that period has come about because there used to be a high
    incidence of disease and death in babies and children which has been eliminated by measures such
    as smaller families, better hygiene, birth in hospital instead of home, antibiotics, and health
    education.

    Most of these preventive factors were in place and fully effective 30 or


    40

    Quoted message said:

    years ago. Their effect has been such that life expectancy at any age has not changed
    significantly in the past 20 years. Yet, in that 20 year


    period,

    Quoted message said:

    Britain has spent around £2,000 million on medical research.

    (I've not checked these quotes) Anth

    I don't know anything about life expectancy statistics for Great Britain, but the tables for the
    U.S. show considerable gains.

    cdc.gov03hus027.pdf

    Besides, not all of healthcare is about making you live longer. Functioning at your highest possible
    level throughout your life is as important as cranking up the numbers.

    --Rich

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Anth said:

    alternativescience.comscientific myths.htm

    Dr David Horrobin, then Director of the Efamol Research Institute in Canada, writing in the New
    Scientist in 1982, said;

    <mondo snippage>

    Every quote in here was at least 12 years old, many of them 20 years. Are you taking Scudamore
    lessons, such that the older a quotation is, the better and more valid it is?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
    correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
    shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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