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  1. <http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/latestnews/Meadows-ban-on-cyclists-39is.3919368.jp>
    outlines the revealing to the public of something which has been
    known to campaigners for some time

    "A LONG-STANDING ban on cyclists using paths in the Meadows may have
    to be scrapped – because it is illegal.

    "It emerged today that signs painted on the walkways to deter
    cyclists from quieter areas of the beauty spot could fall foul of
    the Land Reform (Scotland) Act."

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  2. David Hansen said:

    <http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/latestnews/Meadows-ban-on-cyclists-39is.3919368.jp>
    outlines the revealing to the public of something which has been known
    to campaigners for some time

    "A LONG-STANDING ban on cyclists using paths in the Meadows may have to
    be scrapped – because it is illegal.

    "It emerged today that signs painted on the walkways to deter cyclists
    from quieter areas of the beauty spot could fall foul of the Land Reform
    (Scotland) Act."


    Just because a ban is illegal doesn't mean anything will actually get done
    about it:
    Colwyn Bay/Rhos on Sea/Penrhyn Bay/Llandudno promenades have for years had
    signs up saying cycling not allowed (from before I moved there). These
    were challenged and it was found that byelaws permitted cycling in most
    places (the interpretation of the byelaw was still being debated for
    Llandudno last time I heard anything about it). Now that they've 'built' a
    cycle lane along that route, apparently cycling is banned on any part not
    within the pair of white lines even though the old byelaws are still
    current.
    The police and the council have completely contradicting views on where
    you can and cannot cycle - at least I know I'm allowed to cycle on the
    road which runs parallel to it and has a few less potholes in it!

    peter

  3. On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:24:37 -0500 someone who may be
    naked_draughtsman <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/latestnews/Meadows-ban-on-cyclists-39is.3919368.jp>


    Just because a ban is illegal doesn't mean anything will actually get done
    about it:

    The Land Reform Act overrides anything the Council may have done.
    Any ban and signs are most likely illegal. It doesn't surprise me
    that the "cycle friendly" council have not removed them, their
    action s speak more loudly than their words.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  4. On 27 Mar, 15:04, David Hansen <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "A LONG-STANDING ban on cyclists using paths in the Meadows may have
    to be scrapped - because it is illegal.


    i predict the council will do nothing unless the pressure is
    maintained. I wrote 3 times to Scottish Water and my local council
    access officer to try and get "No Cycling" signs removed from the
    entrances to Milngavie Reservoir. Nothing was done. After a year I
    wrote to my MSP who got things moving and the signs were gone in a
    week.

  5. naked_draughtsman said:
    David Hansen said:

    <http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/latestnews/Meadows-ban-on-cyclists-39is.3919368.jp>
    outlines the revealing to the public of something which has been known
    to campaigners for some time

    "A LONG-STANDING ban on cyclists using paths in the Meadows may have to
    be scrapped – because it is illegal.

    "It emerged today that signs painted on the walkways to deter cyclists
    from quieter areas of the beauty spot could fall foul of the Land Reform
    (Scotland) Act."


    Just because a ban is illegal doesn't mean anything will actually get done
    about it:
    Colwyn Bay/Rhos on Sea/Penrhyn Bay/Llandudno promenades have for years had
    signs up saying cycling not allowed (from before I moved there). These
    were challenged and it was found that byelaws permitted cycling in most
    places (the interpretation of the byelaw was still being debated for
    Llandudno last time I heard anything about it). Now that they've 'built' a
    cycle lane along that route, apparently cycling is banned on any part not
    within the pair of white lines even though the old byelaws are still
    current.
    The police and the council have completely contradicting views on where
    you can and cannot cycle - at least I know I'm allowed to cycle on the
    road which runs parallel to it and has a few less potholes in it!

    peter

    You were never allowed to cycle along the promenade from Seacombe to New
    Brighton, either - something which annoyed me intensely when I was 13. I
    had a shouting-at by a policeman more than once.

    The "promenade" is/was a highway, it should be said. Complete with two
    footways and a normal-width carriageway.

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