LA quads

matabala said:

Anyone catch the slo-mo shots of LA approaching the finish (french tv)? The
muscular development in his quads is beyond impressive, always has been I
suppose. What was more interesting was the same view showing JU and his
decidedly less "pumped" quads, cut but not near as voluminous. Anatomy and
morphology for Dummies, please?

Mesomorphs grow muscles like trees grow leaves. It is programmatic.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521351170/

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 23 Jul 2005 20:43:52 -0700, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

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Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I worried that might happen to me whild driving one day....

JT

Was that you I saw driving today in Prospect after Issendorf's race?

Steve

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Steven Bornfeld said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 23 Jul 2005 20:43:52 -0700, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>
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>Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
>cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
>patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I worried that might happen to me whild driving one day....

Was that you I saw driving today in Prospect after Issendorf's race?

No, I was on a bike...

JT

Sorry I missed the chance to meet you finally. I got into the park
late (about 8:30), and spoke for a while to an old friend, (a CRC rider)
Greg Lee.

Steve

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 23 Jul 2005 20:43:52 -0700, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

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Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I worried that might happen to me whild driving one day....

Was that you I saw driving today in Prospect after Issendorf's race?

No, I was on a bike...

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Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

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Raptor said:

Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

I get some calf cramping, and also some cramps in the outside of the lower
leg - I might have a slight leg-length discrep which causes my foot to try
to evert (turn bottom up).

I've suspected the gracilus, but now I'm thinking it's mostly the
sartorius, b/c that muscle will pull the knees together when the leg is
bent about 90 degress - similar to the position cycling. It's main function
is to cross the legs (thus sartorius=tailor), but it will also help bend
the leg. I think those inner thigh muscles strongly contract as you begin
the downward push on the pedals, keeping the knees together.

My suspicion is that since the inner thigh muscles aren't under fairly
constant tension, but -suddenly- have to apply force when you start the
downward push that the tension is higher and more sudden and may end up
fatiguing them more, and improving their condition less well than the major
quads and hams...not sure that makes sense...anyway...

Talking about DOMS, -man- I've been getting some of that, I think, because
of adding the stationary bike warmup for 15 minutes before each ride.
Pretty cool, because despite lots of riding every day, I've rarely had any
muscle soreness. Though they say that DOMS is not a sign of muscle
building, it tells me I'm working harder so having it occasionally seems
like a good thing especially when ramping up my training, like now.

jj

Raptor said:

Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

I get some calf cramping, and also some cramps in the outside of the lower
leg - I might have a slight leg-length discrep which causes my foot to try
to evert (turn bottom up).

I've suspected the gracilus, but now I'm thinking it's mostly the
sartorius, b/c that muscle will pull the knees together when the leg is
bent about 90 degress - similar to the position cycling. It's main function
is to cross the legs (thus sartorius=tailor), but it will also help bend
the leg. I think those inner thigh muscles strongly contract as you begin
the downward push on the pedals, keeping the knees together.

My suspicion is that since the inner thigh muscles aren't under fairly
constant tension, but -suddenly- have to apply force when you start the
downward push that the tension is higher and more sudden and may end up
fatiguing them more, and improving their condition less well than the major
quads and hams...not sure that makes sense...anyway...

Talking about DOMS, -man- I've been getting some of that, I think, because
of adding the stationary bike warmup for 15 minutes before each ride.
Pretty cool, because despite lots of riding every day, I've rarely had any
muscle soreness. Though they say that DOMS is not a sign of muscle
building, it tells me I'm working harder so having it occasionally seems
like a good thing especially when ramping up my training, like now.

jj

Raptor said:

Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

I get some calf cramping, and also some cramps in the outside of the lower
leg - I might have a slight leg-length discrep which causes my foot to try
to evert (turn bottom up).

I've suspected the gracilus, but now I'm thinking it's mostly the
sartorius, b/c that muscle will pull the knees together when the leg is
bent about 90 degress - similar to the position cycling. It's main function
is to cross the legs (thus sartorius=tailor), but it will also help bend
the leg. I think those inner thigh muscles strongly contract as you begin
the downward push on the pedals, keeping the knees together.

My suspicion is that since the inner thigh muscles aren't under fairly
constant tension, but -suddenly- have to apply force when you start the
downward push that the tension is higher and more sudden and may end up
fatiguing them more, and improving their condition less well than the major
quads and hams...not sure that makes sense...anyway...

Talking about DOMS, -man- I've been getting some of that, I think, because
of adding the stationary bike warmup for 15 minutes before each ride.
Pretty cool, because despite lots of riding every day, I've rarely had any
muscle soreness. Though they say that DOMS is not a sign of muscle
building, it tells me I'm working harder so having it occasionally seems
like a good thing especially when ramping up my training, like now.

jj

Raptor said:

Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

I get some calf cramping, and also some cramps in the outside of the lower
leg - I might have a slight leg-length discrep which causes my foot to try
to evert (turn bottom up).

I've suspected the gracilus, but now I'm thinking it's mostly the
sartorius, b/c that muscle will pull the knees together when the leg is
bent about 90 degress - similar to the position cycling. It's main function
is to cross the legs (thus sartorius=tailor), but it will also help bend
the leg. I think those inner thigh muscles strongly contract as you begin
the downward push on the pedals, keeping the knees together.

My suspicion is that since the inner thigh muscles aren't under fairly
constant tension, but -suddenly- have to apply force when you start the
downward push that the tension is higher and more sudden and may end up
fatiguing them more, and improving their condition less well than the major
quads and hams...not sure that makes sense...anyway...

Talking about DOMS, -man- I've been getting some of that, I think, because
of adding the stationary bike warmup for 15 minutes before each ride.
Pretty cool, because despite lots of riding every day, I've rarely had any
muscle soreness. Though they say that DOMS is not a sign of muscle
building, it tells me I'm working harder so having it occasionally seems
like a good thing especially when ramping up my training, like now.

jj

Raptor said:

Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

I get some calf cramping, and also some cramps in the outside of the lower
leg - I might have a slight leg-length discrep which causes my foot to try
to evert (turn bottom up).

I've suspected the gracilus, but now I'm thinking it's mostly the
sartorius, b/c that muscle will pull the knees together when the leg is
bent about 90 degress - similar to the position cycling. It's main function
is to cross the legs (thus sartorius=tailor), but it will also help bend
the leg. I think those inner thigh muscles strongly contract as you begin
the downward push on the pedals, keeping the knees together.

My suspicion is that since the inner thigh muscles aren't under fairly
constant tension, but -suddenly- have to apply force when you start the
downward push that the tension is higher and more sudden and may end up
fatiguing them more, and improving their condition less well than the major
quads and hams...not sure that makes sense...anyway...

Talking about DOMS, -man- I've been getting some of that, I think, because
of adding the stationary bike warmup for 15 minutes before each ride.
Pretty cool, because despite lots of riding every day, I've rarely had any
muscle soreness. Though they say that DOMS is not a sign of muscle
building, it tells me I'm working harder so having it occasionally seems
like a good thing especially when ramping up my training, like now.

jj

Raptor said:

Jet said:

Uh, oddly when I overextend myself the mucles that tend to act up (as in
cramp) are the inner thighs. Man, that -really- hurts when those things
cramp up. Might be the Gracilus muscle. Those are probably strongly
stressed as stabilizers when you're pedalling, keeping your knees in and
not flared out. Not sure.

jj

I suspect my gracilus is the muscle(s) I tend to have most trouble with
in my hamstrings, pulling/tearing and DOMS. Cramping for me occurs
mostly in my gastroc.

I get some calf cramping, and also some cramps in the outside of the lower
leg - I might have a slight leg-length discrep which causes my foot to try
to evert (turn bottom up).

I've suspected the gracilus, but now I'm thinking it's mostly the
sartorius, b/c that muscle will pull the knees together when the leg is
bent about 90 degress - similar to the position cycling. It's main function
is to cross the legs (thus sartorius=tailor), but it will also help bend
the leg. I think those inner thigh muscles strongly contract as you begin
the downward push on the pedals, keeping the knees together.

My suspicion is that since the inner thigh muscles aren't under fairly
constant tension, but -suddenly- have to apply force when you start the
downward push that the tension is higher and more sudden and may end up
fatiguing them more, and improving their condition less well than the major
quads and hams...not sure that makes sense...anyway...

Talking about DOMS, -man- I've been getting some of that, I think, because
of adding the stationary bike warmup for 15 minutes before each ride.
Pretty cool, because despite lots of riding every day, I've rarely had any
muscle soreness. Though they say that DOMS is not a sign of muscle
building, it tells me I'm working harder so having it occasionally seems
like a good thing especially when ramping up my training, like now.

jj

Carl said:

Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I've never had a cramp in my life. I don't get the big leg muscles
from riding (or anything else). As my equally skinny friend says "Bone
don't cramp".

Carl said:

Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I've never had a cramp in my life. I don't get the big leg muscles
from riding (or anything else). As my equally skinny friend says "Bone
don't cramp".

Carl said:

Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I've never had a cramp in my life. I don't get the big leg muscles
from riding (or anything else). As my equally skinny friend says "Bone
don't cramp".

Carl said:

Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I've never had a cramp in my life. I don't get the big leg muscles
from riding (or anything else). As my equally skinny friend says "Bone
don't cramp".

Carl said:

Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I've never had a cramp in my life. I don't get the big leg muscles
from riding (or anything else). As my equally skinny friend says "Bone
don't cramp".

Carl said:

Even better when you're in a restaurant eating after a race: a severe
cramp hits you and you damn near knock the table over and the other
patrons look over like you're having a seizure.

I've never had a cramp in my life. I don't get the big leg muscles
from riding (or anything else). As my equally skinny friend says "Bone
don't cramp".

Didn't you see photos of Jan last year in the Tour de Suisse?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/jun04/tourdesuisse04/?id=stage9/image21

Didn't you see photos of Jan last year in the Tour de Suisse?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/jun04/tourdesuisse04/?id=stage9/image21

Didn't you see photos of Jan last year in the Tour de Suisse?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/jun04/tourdesuisse04/?id=stage9/image21